M&A Science, hosted by Kison Patel (Founder & CEO of DealRoom), is your go-to podcast for mastering the art of mergers and acquisitions. Each week, Kison and hi...
John Cerasoulo, CEO of Leap Partners Creating a successful roll-up strategy requires a unique combination of industry expertise, strategic planning, and leadership. John Cerasoulo, CEO of Leap Partners, has mastered the art of acquiring and integrating businesses in the home services industry, including HVAC, plumbing, and electrical services. With 19 acquisitions in less than three years, Leap Partners is rapidly expanding across the Southeast with a people-first approach. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, John shares how to build a roll-up machine from scratch. He discusses selecting the right industry, pitching to investors, sourcing and executing deals, and the critical role of leadership and culture in scaling a business. John also explains how to foster strong relationships with business owners and private equity partners, along with key lessons learned from executing high-volume M&A. Things You’ll Learn: How to build a roll-up strategy from scratch Understand how to pitch to investors and raise capital without an initial deal in place Gain insights into sourcing and executing deals with a people-first approach Discover the importance of rapid integration and operational efficiency Hear how to build strong relationships with business owners and private equity partners _________________________________ This episode is sponsored by DealRoom BI. Harness the power of real-time data to make data-driven decisions by building, visualizing, and sharing interactive M&A reports seamlessly. Visit DealRoom.net to learn more._________________________________ Episode Timestamps: [00:00:00] Introduction & The Importance of M&A Reporting Automation [00:02:00] Guest Introduction: John Cerasuolo's Background & Key Lessons from the Navy [00:07:00] The Role of Private Equity in Roll-ups [00:10:30] Building a Roll-up Machine: Step-by-Step Guide [00:13:45] Sourcing Deals & Choosing the Right Industry [00:21:20] Securing the Right Investment Partner & Negotiating Terms [00:30:30] First Deal & Launching Leap Partners [00:33:00] Building a Strong Pitch to Business Owners & Characteristics of Leadership [00:40:00] Integration Strategy & Operational Efficiency [00:45:00] Partnership with Business Owners & Culture Building Post-Close [00:48:30] Craziest Thing Seen in M&A & Final Thoughts
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Corporate Development Strategy in High-Volume M&A
Jeff Giles, Executive Vice President at Core & Main M&A at scale requires more than just financial analysis—it’s about building relationships, understanding cultural fit, and executing a seamless integration strategy. With over 60 deals under his belt, Jeff Giles, Executive Vice President at Core & Main, has a proven track record of leading high-volume, buyer-led M&A. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Jeff shares his expertise in strategic acquisitions, relationship-driven deal sourcing, and post-merger integration. He discusses the critical role of culture in M&A, how to prioritize acquisition targets, and why technology is essential for managing complex transactions. Things you will learn: Buyer-led M&A – The power of proactive deal sourcing Building a strategic market map – Core vs. adjacent markets How to assess culture in M&A – What makes a deal truly successful Negotiation tactics in valuation gaps – Closing deals with the right structure Integration planning – Ensuring a smooth transition post-close _________________________________ This episode in sponsored by DealRoom AI. Forget spending hours reviewing diligence contracts. Automate the extraction and analysis of key information and create quick summary reports. Harness the power of Buyer-Led M&A with DealRoom's proven framework. Visit DealRoom.net to learn more. _________________________________ Episode Timestamps: [00:00:00] Introduction & Guest Background [00:03:00] Building Market Maps & Identifying Opportunities [00:11:00] Developing Relationships in Buyer-Led M&A [00:19:00] Expanding into Adjacent Markets [00:24:00] Prioritization of Acquisition Targets [00:31:00] Evaluating Cultural Fit & Integration Risks [00:38:00] Building Trust & Transparency with Business Owners [00:42:45] The Due Diligence Process [00:50:00] Managing Bid-Ask Spread & Valuation Challenges [00:55:00] Integration Planning for M&A Success [01:01:00] The Role of Technology in M&A [01:06:00] Surprising Moments in M&A
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Navigating Large-Scale M&A Deals and Legal Complexities
John Orbe, Senior Associate General Counsel – M&A at Emerson Large-scale deals come with layers of complexity—from regulatory challenges and cross-border negotiations to structuring transactions that align with long-term business strategy. Having the right legal approach can make or break a deal. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, John Orbe joins us to break down what it takes to execute high-stakes transactions. He shares insights on the differences between large and small deals, how legal teams can be a strategic partner in M&A, and why cross-border transactions require more than just legal know-how. Things you will learn: Big vs. small deals – Unique challenges and hidden complexities When to involve legal in M&A – Structuring LOIs the right way Cross-border deal challenges – Cultural, regulatory, and legal considerations How technology is reshaping M&A – AI, automation, and data room efficiencies Avoiding post-closing disputes – Drafting airtight agreements Trailer Timestamps: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:03:17 Entering the M&A World 00:05:26 M&A as a Team Sport 00:07:18 Transition from Law Firm to In-House Counsel 00:10:35 Differences Between Large and Small M&A Deals 00:15:42 M&A Deal Strategy and Business Risk 00:25:10 Legal Due Diligence Process 00:30:22 Cross-Border M&A Complexities 00:35:40 Technology and AI in M&A 00:40:15 Managing External Legal Counsel 00:45:00 Negotiation Strategies in M&A 00:50:30 People and Cultural Considerations in Deals 00:55:10 M&A Deal Execution and Closing Challenges 01:00:20 The Future of M&A and Legal Innovation 01:05:45 Craziest M&A Stories and Lessons Learned
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Lessons from the Trenches: Mastering Tech M&A, Integration, and Carve-Out Strategies Part 2
Dr. Amit Monga, Founder and CEO of SARAPOINT Every deal tells a story of risk, strategy, and the relentless pursuit of value. With M&A evolving into a core function across industries, simply following old playbooks is no longer enough. You need insight, discipline, and a strategy tailored to today’s fast-moving, multi-dimensional landscape. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Amit Monga, Founder and CEO of SARAPOINT, joins us to unpack the intricacies of software valuation, integration challenges, and structuring carve-outs that unlock hidden value. Things you will learn: Trends in software valuation: EBITDA vs. revenue multiples How growth impacts valuation and attracts buyers Navigating deals with difficult CEOs Challenges in carve-outs from the buy-side Key differences between buy-side and sell-side M&A This episode is sponsored by DealRoom AI. Forget spending hours reviewing diligence contracts. Automate the extraction and analysis of key information and create quick summary reports. Harness the power of Buyer-Led M&A™ with DealRoom's proven framework. Visit DealRoom.net to learn more. Episode Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:31 Trends in software valuation: EBITDA vs. revenue multiples 05:22 Venture capital vs. private equity mindsets 07:48 Who is lending on software deals 09:13 Convincing someone to sell their company 12:41 How growth impacts valuation and attracts buyers 15:46 How to approach your first acquisition 18:54 How to pitch a deal to Founders 22:15 Navigating deals with difficult CEOs 27:46 Challenges in carve-outs from the buy-side 31:36 Networking to find carve-out deals 35:28 Structuring optimal deals for carve-outs and founder-owned businesses 41:46 When to take on investments and build a platform 45:25 Key differences between buy-side and sell-side M&A 50:21 Surprises and lessons learned in M&A 55:09 How M&A strategies have evolved 58:25 Craziest thing in M&A
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Lessons from the Trenches: Mastering Tech M&A, Integration, and Carve-Out Strategies Part 1
Amit Monga, Founder and CEO of SARAPOINT M&A is a minefield of uncertainties, let alone the tech space. Missteps in integration, cultural clashes, and unforeseen risks can quickly derail even the most promising deals. That’s why understanding what could go wrong is critical. Dr. Amit Monga, Founder and CEO of SARAPOINT, shares lessons from the trenches to help you anticipate challenges and mitigate risks. Learn how to navigate integration, manage carve-outs, and turn M&A uncertainty into opportunity with actionable insights from a seasoned expert. Things you will learn: Key lessons from the trenches for corporate M&A success Balancing proactive and opportunistic M&A strategies Handling opportunistic deals outside core strategy Evaluating deals that don’t fit the M&A thesis Maintaining control during M&A execution ******************* This episode is sponsored by DealRoom AI. Forget spending hours reviewing diligence contracts. Automate the extraction and analysis of key information and create quick summary reports. Harness the power of Buyer-Led M&A™ with DealRoom's proven framework. Visit DealRoom.net to learn more. ******************* Episode Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 03:17 The power of an engineering background 03:48 Key lessons from the trenches for corporate M&A success 06:51 Balancing proactive and opportunistic M&A strategies 08:39 Building and managing an M&A pipeline 10:32 Handling opportunistic deals outside corporate strategy 12:35 Balancing synergies and opportunistic deals 14:54 Deciding how much to integrate a company 17:59 Evaluating deals that don’t fit the M&A thesis 23:06 Planning integration based on partnerships and synergies 25:02 Becoming a buyer-led M&A organization 27:05 Working with the sell-side during M&A processes 30:46 Maintaining control during M&A execution 32:40 Balancing the M&A process management with bankers 34:48 Handling proprietary deals without an advisor 38:34 Scenario: Balancing opportunism with communication in competitive processes
M&A Science, hosted by Kison Patel (Founder & CEO of DealRoom), is your go-to podcast for mastering the art of mergers and acquisitions. Each week, Kison and his expert guests from leading brands like Xerox, FastLap, and Cisco dig deep into real-world M&A strategies, offering actionable insights to optimize your M&A practice.
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