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She Leads Because She Can

Sue Aspinall and Caz Jude
She Leads Because She Can
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    #31 Wellbeing as an innovator of standards with Mary Rose Connolly

    30/05/2026 | 38 mins.
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    In this episode, we sit down with Mary Rose Connolly, founder and consultant at POSA Consulting, to explore her unique approach to school leadership and pastoral care. Mary describes her work as a “travelling pastoral system” — bringing tailored support, belief, and structure directly into schools. Her philosophy centres on one core conviction: that the right support for students and staff is not a luxury, but the very engine of school success.

    Wellbeing as a Driver of Standards

    Mary challenges the idea that wellbeing and high standards are in tension. For her, wellbeing is a driver of standards — it flourishes when an organisation knows its values, understands why it holds them, and can clearly articulate how those values translate into success. Crucially, she pushes back against vague wellbeing initiatives, arguing that lasting change requires clear, measurable outcomes. Without them, even well-intentioned efforts fade away.

    Kind Leadership: Leading with Heart and Head

    A central theme of the conversation is Mary’s advocacy for Kind Leadership — a philosophy of leading with your heart whilst holding yourself to account with your head. Far from being a soft option, she sees kindness as a genuine strength: something that can be woven into every interaction and every moment in the workplace and in life. Kind Leadership, in her view, is entirely compatible with being fiercely relentless in driving excellence — the two are not opposites, but partners.

    Three Guiding Principles

    Mary leaves listeners with three principles to carry into their schools and lives:
    •       Look out for each other — build a culture of genuine care and collective responsibility.
    •       Listen to each other — real listening is an act of leadership in itself.
    •       If you can’t change something, change how you see it — a quiet but powerful reminder that perspective is always within our control.
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    #30 CHASE-ing Kind Leadership with Joanna Povall

    15/05/2026 | 39 mins.
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    In this episode, we sit down with Joanna Povall, author of the newly published book Kind Leadership, to explore what it truly means to lead with empathy, honesty, and impact. Far from being a sign of weakness, Joanna makes a compelling case that kind leadership is in fact the most human — and most effective — way to lead within any organisation.
    Joanna opens by sharing the core questions she found herself returning to again and again in her work with leaders: How do we communicate with compassion under pressure? How do we lead with empathy while still upholding high standards? And how do we hold people accountable without damaging their self-esteem? These questions became the foundation for her approach to kind leadership.
    At the heart of the conversation is the CHASE framework — a practical guide that keeps leaders honest with themselves and others. Joanna breaks it down: Communication with kindness forms the foundation, Honesty provides the structure, and Accountability is the glue that holds it all together. Self-esteem is the fourth pillar, and Joanna speaks powerfully about why nurturing it in schools is so important — arguing that when self-esteem is strengthened, cultures are created where emotional honesty feels safe and joy can flourish. She speaks candidly about the damage that shame can cause to growth and development, and urges us to eliminate it from our schools entirely.
    The final element of the CHASE framework is Ego. Joanna shares her own honest experiences of managing her ego in leadership, describing it as an ongoing practice — one she believes all leaders should be actively and continuously working on.
    Joanna also offers a helpful overview of key research in the field before turning to what she is most passionate about: the practical application of kind leadership within schools, which forms the heart of her book.
    This is a conversation that is honest, grounded, and deeply practical. Whether you are a school leader, a teacher, or anyone who leads people, Joanna offers real and actionable ways to bring kindness into every interaction, decision, and moment of presence.
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    #29 Bridging Cultures and Systems with Kay Yang

    30/04/2026 | 30 mins.
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    In this episode, we hear from Kay Yang, a Chinese national whose journey from the north to the south of China, and ultimately into school leadership in Shanghai, has shaped a deeply reflective and culturally-informed approach to leading in international education.
    Kay shares her personal educational story and how it ignited a passion for fostering mutual understanding within culturally diverse teams. She explores the unique dynamics that emerge when people from different cultural backgrounds work together, and how intentional conversation and a genuine desire to understand one another can transform a mixed-culture team into something far greater than the sum of its parts.
    A powerful thread running through this conversation is Kay's sense of responsibility as a role model. She speaks with confidence and conviction about the value that women of Chinese heritage bring to the international school sector — how their presence bridges cultures, and how their insight enables the creation of structures and systems that are more contextually relevant and authentic to the communities they serve.
    Kay also looks ahead. Having recently concluded her time at Wellington College Shanghai, she is stepping into a broader  role with a clear sense of purpose: to work alongside bilingual middle leaders in international schools, empowering them to bring the full richness of their cultural and linguistic identities into their leadership practice.
    This is a conversation about belonging, bridge-building, and the quiet power of leading from a place of integrated identity.
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    #28 Finding Resilience, Adaptability and Self-Belief with Paula Ralph

    16/04/2026 | 53 mins.
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    Episode Overview

    In this episode, we hear from endurance sportswoman Paula Ralph, who completed a remarkable solo, unsupported cycle ride of 12,290 km from Cape Town, South Africa to Nordkapp, Norway — crossing 17 countries in just 126 days.

    Growing Up: Hardship and Survival

    Paula speaks candidly about a difficult childhood in South Africa, growing up in a family heavily affected by death and hardship. Her early adult years were spent in survival mode — focused on getting through each day rather than truly living a fulfilling life.

    Finding Purpose: The Decision to Ride

    Driven by a determination to find deeper meaning in life, Paula explains how her sporting journey led her to a bold decision: to undertake the long-distance cycle ride entirely alone. The challenge became a vehicle for self-discovery and transformation.

    Lessons from the Road

    The journey taught Paula powerful life lessons that she shares openly in this episode:
    •        Building resilience, adaptability and self-belief through the toughest physical and mental challenges.
    •        Learning to ask for help — leaning on the kindness and expertise of strangers along the way.
    •        The power of a great coach: how her coach became her greatest cheerleader, lifting her through the darkest moments.
    •        Coping with pain and adversity by taking it one day at a time and choosing to smile through the struggle.

    Advice for Educators and School Leaders

    Paula closes the episode with three key messages for those working with young people:
    •        Listen carefully to young people — make sure they are truly heard and have a voice.
    •        Ask them lots of questions — show genuine interest in their lives and how they see the world.
    •        Ask them: "How can I help you achieve your goals?"
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    #27 Leading with Care, Compassion and Community with Fiona Cottam

    02/04/2026 | 44 mins.
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    In this episode, we sit down with Fiona Cottam, Principal of Hartland's International School in Dubai. Recorded before the situation in the Middle East unfolded, Fiona shares how strong, values-driven leadership enables a community to face uncertainty with resilience and unity.
    Fiona takes us through her leadership journey — from teaching in the UK to heading one of Dubai's most prestigious international schools. She reflects on the role models and supporters who shaped her along the way, including parents who instilled in her the belief that anything was possible.
    She speaks openly about the importance of leading with care and compassion, building a community aligned around a shared vision, and the power of both leaning into local support and reaching outward into the global network for expertise and fresh perspective.
    As a passionate advocate for female leadership, Fiona believes women have a responsibility to lower the ladder so others can rise alongside them. She encourages women to use their voice, ask for what they need, intentionally role model for others, engage with coaching, seek inspiration in other women's stories, and create spaces where everyone feels genuinely welcomed.
    Fiona also reminds school leaders of the importance of carving out time for the strategic and intellectual dimensions of leadership — reading widely, engaging with research, and thinking deeply about education. She champions coaching, networking, and professional sharing as essential tools for ongoing growth.
    Three leadership takeaways to carry with you:
    Believe in yourself — keep taking the next step forwards
    Listen deeply — to yourself, those around you, and your wider community
    Lean in to those close to you, and lean out into the wider network for support and guidance
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About She Leads Because She Can
We believe that there is a need to provide support for female school leaders, who want to thrive and grow within international school settings. In this series of fortnightly podcasts, we share our own lived experiences and the hard-hitting realities which have shaped us as successful leaders within the sector. Each podcast forms a topical conversation which is experienced-based; sharing truths, sound council and suggested solutions.We aim to be a source of courage, confidence and practical solutions to keep others ' leading because they can'.
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