Beyond Gender

Attorney Mary McAlister sits down with Stella to talk about the ongoing battle in courts to protect what parents decide for their children, especially against this wave of gender ideology slipping into schools across the U.S. McAlister shares stories from her role at the Child & Parental Rights Campaign. There, she represents families whose children have been secretly transitioned by schools without parental knowledge. The conversation traces the ideological roots of current policies back to the controversial research of Alfred Kinsey, whose work Mary studied alongside the late Dr. Judith Reisman. From secret school transitions to the weaponisation of Child Protective Services, Mary explains how Kinsey’s ideas laid the groundwork for today’s attacks on parental authority, and how the legal tide is finally beginning to turn.Mary E. McAlister is Senior Litigation Counsel for the nonprofit group, the Child & Parental Rights Campaign, launched in 2019. She’s been in the legal game for almost 30 years now - handling trials, pushing appeals, championing family choices and free speech rights, all the way up to the Supreme Court.Mary holds a J.D. from UC Berkeley School of Law and a B.S. in Journalism (summa cum laude) from California Polytechnic State University. Before her public interest work, she was a journalist and later a commercial litigator in California. She previously served as Senior Litigation Counsel at Liberty Counsel.Starting in 2010 and right up to when Dr. Judith Reisman passed away in April 2021, McAlister teamed up closely with her. Together, they penned scholarly pieces that spotlighted how Alfred Kinsey’s shadow still hangs over society. These days, McAlister runs The Reisman Institute as its president, picking up where Reisman left off, probing the roots of the sexual revolution.

Derrick Jensen is an environmental philosopher and author of over 25 books. In this conversation with Stella and Bret, he traces the intellectual lineage from anarchism through queer theory to trans, explaining how the rejection of all social norms, including those protecting children, found its way into academic theory and beyond.Jensen discusses how his book The Culture of Make Believe predicted the rise of the insane right, but when he tried to write a companion critique of the insane left, his publisher held the manuscript for five years before dropping him entirely for criticizing queer theory.He walks through the founding documents most people have never actually read, including Gayle Rubin's 1984 essay "Thinking Sex" and Michel Foucault's advocacy for abolishing age of consent laws. The conversation also covers Karen Horney's concept of "womb envy," Peggy Reeves Sanday's cross-cultural research on sexual violence, and DARVO, the pattern where abusers deny, attack, and reverse victim and offender. Stella and Bret also ask Jensen about his viral "Queer Theory Jeopardy" moment.

This conversation was pre-recorded and presented at Genspect's The Bigger Picture Conference, held 27–28 September 2025 in Albuquerque, New Mexico.Abigail Shrier and Stella O'Malley discuss how therapy culture has gone wrong for young people—and what parents can do about it.

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