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MacKenzie Price
Future of Education Podcast
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  • Future of Education Podcast

    S2E361: The Harvard Business Approach to Raising Critical Thinkers

    09/10/2026 | 43 mins.
    Many kids today are struggling to think independently, handle high-pressure moments, and make strategic choices on their own. Terrence McMullen—a Harvard MBA graduate and Dean of Parents at Alpha—is on a mission to fix that. Having spent 15 years teaching advanced business acumen and negotiation to K-12 students, Terrence has built programs alongside Goldman Sachs and partnered with over 20 top independent schools across New York.
    In this conversation, Terrence shares how adapting the Harvard Business School case method equips parents to build deep critical thinking, refine real-world communication, and raise adaptable children who know how to analyze complex situations on the fly.

    In this episode, we discuss:
    The Harvard Business School Case Method: How Socratic questioning and real-world business scenarios encourage kids to think on their feet and question their own assumptions.
    Teaching Strategy Through Scenarios: An inside look at how a Steve Jobs iPhone launch case teaches 10-year-olds pricing, positioning, and market trade-offs.
    Real-World Application: How student-led projects give kids direct experience.
    Practical At-Home Exercises: Simple strategies parents can use during daily routines.
    Recognizing Critical Thinking Gaps: Behavioral signs that indicate a child needs practice in evaluating alternatives.
    Strategic Communication & Empathy: How teaching kids to read non-verbal cues improves social competence and negotiation skills.

    Episode Timestamps:
    01:28 - The Socratic case method at Harvard Business School
    02:37 - Adapting business challenges for young students
    04:13 - Example: Using the Steve Jobs iPhone launch to teach marketing and pricing
    07:16 - Real-world simulations: Student-run operations and financial accountability
    08:58 - The limitations of test-focused traditional classrooms
    11:32 - Why business topics serve as an engaging medium for critical thinking
    12:50 - Step-by-step guide for parents to run case discussions at home
    19:49 - Behavioral indicators that a child lacks problem-solving flexibility
    22:26 - Resist the "easy button": Supporting children without solving every issue
    27:50 - Using post-mortem discussions to reflect on decisions without judgment
    33:20 - Developing strategic communication, empathy, and active listening
    38:52 - How parental mindfulness and reflection support child development

    Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

    Read MacKenzie's Substack: www.futureofeducation.substack.com

    Learn more about our schools: www.2hourlearning.com/schools

    Learn more about Alpha School: www.alpha.school
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    S2E360: A Stanford ER Doctor’s Blueprint for Raising Healthy Kids— With Dr. Viveta Lobo

    02/10/2026 | 57 mins.
    What does it actually take to keep kids healthy, active, and out of the emergency room? In this episode, MacKenzie sits down with Dr. Viveta Lobo—a Stanford ER physician, professor, Alpha parent, and mother of three—to unpack a practical, preventive approach to childhood health, physical fitness, and nutrition. In this conversation, Dr. Lobo breaks down commonly asked questions in a compilation of essential, doctor-approved best practices for parents.

    In this episode, we cover:
    Movement as Brain Fuel: How physical activity releases BDNF ("Miracle-Gro for the brain") to improve executive function, memory, and classroom focus.
    Strength Training for Kids: Dispelling myths around weightlifting, and why resistance training helps kids—especially those carrying extra weight—build physical competence over humiliation.
    Building Child Agency: Why letting kids handle age-appropriate responsibilities (from setting alarms to planning family meals) builds real-world judgment that AI cannot replace.
    Practical Family Nutrition: The 80/20 approach to snacks, hitting daily protein targets (~1.5g/kg), and enforcing the "three-bite rule" for picky eaters.
    Preventive Healthcare: Moving away from reactive ER visits to establish core lifestyle habits (movement, nutrition, mental health, community) early in life.

    Episode Timestamps:
    00:00 - Meeting Dr. Viveta Lobo
    00:56 - Shifting from Reactive ER Care to Preventive Health
    03:38 - Relocating to Austin & Choosing Texas Sports Academy
    05:00 - Why Physical Activity is "Miracle-Gro" for the Brain (BDNF)
    09:33 - Debunking Myths: Strength & Resistance Training for Children
    13:17 - Reframing Exercise for Overweight & Non-Athletic Kids
    22:52 - Building Agency & Independence in Children at Home
    25:07 - Food Formulas: Pantry Management, the 80/20 Rule & Gas Station Treats
    30:22 - Child Nutrition: Protein Targets & Complete Amino Acids
    39:22 - Overcoming Picky Eaters & The "Three-Bite Rule"
    43:38 - Maximizing Growth Potential & Childhood Height
    45:53 - Changing the Paradigm: Lifestyle Medicine Over Emergency Rooms
    49:26 - Early Warning Signs of Mental Health Struggles in Teens
    55:05 - Dr. Lobo’s Personal Journey: Micro-Preemies & Unlocking Limitless Potential

    Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

    Read MacKenzie's Substack: www.futureofeducation.substack.com

    Learn more about our schools: www.2hourlearning.com/schools

    Learn more about Alpha School: www.alpha.school
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    S2E359: The Reality of Building an Alternative School—With Infinity Academy Founders Gillian and Jenna

    25/09/2026 | 49 mins.
    What actually happens when you leave traditional careers to build an alternative school from scratch? In this episode, MacKenzie sits down with fellow alternative school founders Gillian Berard (former public school teacher) and Jenna Baggott (former NICU nurse) to unpack the practical realities of launching Infinity Academy, a project-based microschool on 17 acres in Ontario.
    From navigating local zoning laws using yurt classrooms to balancing AI-powered personalized academics with outdoor life skills, it’s a candid, unfiltered look at the practical realities of launching an alternative school today.

    Episode Timestamps:
    00:00 - Intro: Meeting the Founders of Infinity Academy
    01:29 - Why Reforming Public Education Feels Like "Steering the Titanic"
    03:22 - Leaving Nursing & Teaching to Build Something New
    06:31 - Infinity Academy’s Vision: Self-Directed & Nature-Based
    08:18 - Using AI & Adaptive Tools for Core Academics
    12:45 - The Role of the Educator as a "Guide"
    14:53 - Addressing Common Misconceptions About Alternative Schools
    17:37 - Student Motivation & Real-World Application
    19:09 - The Reality of Year 1: Zoning, Funding & Risk
    24:09 - Yurt Classrooms & Bypassing Structural Permits
    25:30 - Using Social Media to Prove What School Can Be
    27:45 - Practical Advice for Launching Your Own Microschool

    Connect with Infinity Academy on Instagram: @infinity_education.inc
    Learn more about Infinity Academy: www.infinityacademyed.com/
    Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education
    Read MacKenzie's Substack: futureofeducation.substack.com
    Learn more about all our schools: 2hourlearning.com/schools
    Learn more about Alpha School: alpha.school
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    S2E358: The Ambitious Parent Trap (& The Leadership Skill You Need to Escape It) with Heather Chauvin

    18/09/2026 | 44 mins.
    Leadership skills in the workplace don't always translate to leadership skills in the home. Often times, the well-intentioned efforts of ambitious parents can lead to surprising consequences for their kids. As it turns out, the secret to raising extraordinary, self-driven kids isn't just pushing harder and chasing optimization...and today's guest is here to unpack just that.
    In this episode, MacKenzie sits down with Heather Chauvin—former social worker, stage 4 cancer survivor, host of the Emotionally Uncomfortable podcast, and advisor to high-achieving leaders—to talk about how ambitious parents can lead their families without burning out in the process.
    We're covering:
    Energy Management vs. Time Management: What happens when you fill your calendar without first seeking emotional alignment.
    Intentionality vs. Control: How to stop micromanaging and support your child's innate development.
    The Overparenting Trap: Why high achievers accidentally create a "comfort crisis" for their kids and how to break the cycle.
    Parenting as Quiet Leadership: How to shift out of being "the doer" who controls every task.

    Episode Timestamps:
    02:42 – Performative Parenting: Trapped in the Comparison Game
    05:14 – A Stage 4 Cancer Diagnosis and a Burnout Crisis
    07:47 – Energy Management vs. Time Management
    09:53 – Why Reactive Living Drains Your Daily Capacity
    14:43 – Intentionality vs. Control: Are You Supporting or Micromanaging?
    15:43 – The "Time & Energy Audit": Making Invisible Stress Visible
    18:44 – The #1 Mistake High-Achieving Parents Make With Their Kids
    25:38 – Overparenting and the "Comfort Crisis" in Modern Childhood
    27:28 – Why Emotional Regulation Beats Quick Fixes Every Time
    31:44 – From "The Doer" to "The Be-er": Reframing Parenting as Quiet Leadership
    34:56 – Simple Steps to Buy Back Your Time and Reclaim Vitality

    Learn more about Heather Chauvin: www.heatherchauvin.com

    Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education
    Read MacKenzie's Substack: www.futureofeducation.substack.com
    Learn more about our schools: www.2hourlearning.com/schools
    Learn more about Alpha School: www.alpha.school
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    S2E357: The 15-Minute Weekly Habit That Turns Kids into Self-Starters

    11/09/2026 | 45 mins.
    What if one focused conversation each week could help your child identify roadblocks, set meaningful goals, and take ownership of what happens next?
    In this episode, MacKenzie speaks with Jackson—an Alpha Guide with a background in sports psychology—about Limitless Meetings: recurring, one-on-one coaching conversations that transform a student's ability to set and stick to goals. Jackson explains how to structure a quick, focused check-in, adapt the conversation to a child’s age and interests, and use motivational interviewing instead of defaulting to lectures or quick solutions.
    Parents and educators will leave with a practical framework for helping children articulate what they want, identify what is getting in the way, choose their own next step, and determine exactly how they want to be held accountable.

    Episode Timestamps:
    00:00 – An Introduction to Limitless Meetings
    02:58 – Finding the Sweet Spot: Ideal Meeting Lengths for Every Age
    05:06 – From Songwriting to Social Skills: Setting Clear, Actionable Goals
    06:36 – The Paint-by-Numbers Trick: Keeping Kids Engaged During Deep Conversations
    10:48 – Moving from Parent-Led Directives to Student-Owned Agendas
    11:56 – The Two Golden Rules: Confidentiality and Tying Goals to Real Life Skills
    16:58 – Motivational Interviewing: A Simple Questioning Framework for Parents
    24:28 – Positive Reinforcement vs. Negative Punishment
    27:28 – The "WTF" Framework
    29:21 – How to Use AI to Grade Coaching Conversations
    40:43 – The Perfect Closing Question: Establishing Meaningful Accountability

    Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education
    Read MacKenzie's Substack: futureofeducation.substack.com
    Learn more about our schools: 2hourlearning.com/schools
    Learn more about Alpha School: alpha.school
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About Future of Education Podcast
The Future of Education Podcast is the place to find out what's happening in schools. Our guests are wide and varied, from educators, entrepreneurs, athletes, celebrities, influencers and most importantly-our students! They all have one thing in common- they are passionate about reinventing education to make it relevant and efficient. Our host, MacKenzie Price, is the Co-Founder of 2hr Learning (2hourlearning.com) and some of the top-performing schools in the country. 2 Hour Learning is a groundbreaking school model that is reshaping the landscape of K-12 education. It's powered by AI technology, enabling schools to provide personalized curriculum to students. Our K-12 schools perform in the top 2% nationwide by leveraging this personalize model to help students love school, learn twice as much, and build life skills. MacKenzie is at the forefront of educational transformation, striving for a balanced and enriching learning experience for every child. She graduated with a BA in Psychology from Stanford University and resides in Austin, Texas, with her husband and two daughters. The Future of Education podcast is produced by 7 Lyons Media (7LyonsMedia.com). Please send press inquiries to mkp@2hourlearning.com.
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