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  • #231 - Hospitality Meets Dan Barnes - Cutlery Polishing & Culture Building
    This week, I sat down with Dan Barnes, Managing Director of Flourish Hospitality, a learning and development consultancy built on one simple idea: that every moment in hospitality is a chance to help someone grow.Dan’s story is one of those brilliant hospitality journeys that started with polishing cutlery and pretending to be a grown-up in a suit and somehow led to building learning cultures across hotels, restaurants and private members’ clubs.From Marriott to Edwardian Hotels, Caprice Holdings and now Flourish, Dan’s career has been a masterclass in curiosity, creativity, and learning the hard (but hilarious) way.In this episode, Dan and I dive into…How he went from dreaming of being a history teacher to becoming hospitality’s go-to L&D guruThe lessons learned from Marriott’s graduate scheme (and a haggis-related feedback story you won’t forget)His time at Edwardian Hotels, where he built a Food & Beverage Academy and developed “The Service World to Stage” programWhy L&D in hospitality is the only truly positive role in HRThe realities of pre-opening a major hotel and the mantra that kept him saneThe joy (and chaos) of opening Annabel’s and running training for 1,500 people at Caprice HoldingsWhy feedback hurts, but silence in a training room hurts moreAnd the beautiful truth that great hospitality isn’t an act, it’s genuine human connectionDan Barnes Quotes“Learning and development is the one truly positive role where every interaction is positive.”“It doesn’t have to be perfect for it to be wonderful.”“If you’re good at L&D, you build rapport — which is essentially hospitality skills.”“You can’t inspire people on day one with food safety. Orientation should be about joining the journey.”“As long as you’re passionate about hospitality, you can find a career anywhere.”Why this episode is worth your timeDan embodies everything great about hospitality learning, heart, humour, and humility.This episode is packed with wisdom for anyone who’s ever tried to train, lead, or inspire a team while the fire alarm’s going off.It’s honest, it’s funny, and it’s full of lessons about resilience, storytelling, and why you should always leave space for people to find their own answers.Show PartnersA big shout out to Today’s show partner, RotaCloud, the people management platform for shift-based teams.RotaCloud lets managers create and share rotas, record attendance, and manage annual leave in minutes — all from a single, web-based app.It makes work simple for your team, too, allowing them to check their rotas, request holiday, and even pick up extra shifts straight from their phones.Try RotaCloud’s time-saving tools today by heading to https://rotacloud.com/philThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
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  • #230 - Hospitality Meets Jo Morgan - Making Someone's Day
    This week, I sat down in The Den at The Other House, South Kensington, with the wonderful Jo Morgan, owner of Meliora Consultancy Services, coach, advisor to Tech on Toast and all round powerhouse of positivity.Jo’s journey is one of those you could never script. From becoming the youngest female GM in her company at 27, to running seven floating hotels for TUI Cruises, to heading up operations for The Other House and launching her own consultancy, Meliora (“the pursuit of the better”) her career reads like a masterclass in saying yes and figuring it out later.And along the way, she’s seen it a lot! And I mean a lotDouble booked hotels. Reindeer “activity” on the 18th green. Soviet-style roadshows in Odeon cinemas. And more heart, humour, and hustle than most industries can handle.In this episode, Jo and I dive into…The birth of Meliora ConsultancyHow she became the youngest female GM in the UK within her companyHer adventures in cruise operations (running seven floating hotels on WhatsApp anyone?)What it was like to deliver holidays for guests with disabilities through RevitaliseHow COVID forced her to hit reset and rediscover her purposeThe magic of The (multi award winning) Other HouseWhy making someone’s day, no matter how small, is never wasted effortAnd yes… the tale of the double booked Hotel and the reindeer "Activity" on the golf courseNotable Quotes“Everybody deserves a holiday.”“I’m not scared of learning something. Maybe it’s just undying curiosity, but I’ll Google everything.”“It’s not necessarily the mistake itself that’s the issue — it’s how you respond to it.”“In hospitality, you get a lot of chance to make people’s day. Why wouldn’t you take it?”Why this episode is worth your timeJo brings the perfect mix of real talk and relentless optimism.She’s the embodiment of why hospitality people are different, resourceful, human, endlessly curious, and full of stories that make you laugh one second and reflect the next.If you’ve ever wondered what “leadership with heart” looks like in action this is itShow PartnersA big shout out to Today’s show partner, RotaCloud, the people management platform for shift-based teams.RotaCloud lets managers create and share rotas, record attendance, and manage annual leave in minutes — all from a single, web-based app.It makes work simple for your team, too, allowing them to check their rotas, request holiday, and even pick up extra shifts straight from their phones.Try RotaCloud’s time-saving tools today by heading to https://rotacloud.com/philThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
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  • #229 - Hospitality Meets Jakob Gowin - Leading at the Whitehouse (No, not that one)
    This week, I sat down in person (yes, we went old school) with the brilliant Jakob Gowin, General Manager of the Meliá White House in London - and what a conversation this turned out to be.From washing dishes at 13 to running a 581 bedroom hotel and 112 long-stay apartments (with residents who’ve lived there for 30+ years!), Jakob’s journey is packed with graft, heart, humility, and more than a few cracking stories - including the fact we recorded this episode in “The White House”. Sadly, neither of us bumped into the President… but we did fix some of the worlds problemsJakob brings a refreshing, human first take on hospitality and leadership, rooted in care, curiosity, resilience and a healthy dose of humour. This episode is full of golden nuggets for anyone in the industry, regardless of where you sit on the org chart.In this episode, Jakob and I get into…His spur of the moment entry into hospitality at age 13 (thanks to his brother bunking a shift)How a single 30 second conversation changed the entire course of his careerThe incredible history of the Meliá White House - from art deco elegance to WWII navigation point to Soviet spy HQBalancing hospitality at scale with genuine personalisation (including when “positive stalking” is actually a great thing)Why unsung hero actions matter just as much as the big “hero moments”The responsibility leaders have around their first responseWhy communication isn’t a “soft skill” - it’s the skillThe power of empathy, integrity and a well timed bit of humour in leadershipAI in hotels: not a gimmick, not a cost-cutting exercise - a chance to give humans more time to be… well… humanSome cracking quote-ables from Jakob“A bad manager is sometimes easier to learn from than a good one.”“If that doesn’t bring a smile to your face as someone in hospitality… you’re in the wrong trade.”“People will forgive an awful lot if they’re communicated to properly.”“You can’t deliver hospitality if you’re not feeling right. It’s hard to paint on a smile forever.”“Treat people how they want to be treated - not how you want to be treated.”Why this episode is worth your earsIf you work in hospitality, lead people, want to lead people, or just need a little reminder of what true hospitality looks like, this one’s for you.Jakob is the kind of leader who proves that kindness and high performance are not only compatible - they fuel each other. You’ll walk away with ideas you can implement today, whether you run a team of 2 or a hotel of 500+.Show PartnersA big shout out to Today’s show partner, RotaCloud, the people management platform for shift-based teams.RotaCloud lets managers create and share rotas, record attendance, and manage annual leave in minutes — all from a single, web-based app.It makes work simple for your team, too, allowing them to check their rotas, request holiday, and even pick up extra shifts straight from their phones.Try RotaCloud’s time-saving
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  • #228 - Hospitality Meets Edward Gallier - Cateys, Chaos & Culture
    This week on Hospitality Meets, I had the absolute pleasure of sitting down with the brilliant Edward Gallier (Edd), Head of Learning & Development at Leonardo Hotels UK & Ireland and freshly minted Catey Award winner 2025Edd’s career has been built on passion, purpose, and the odd bit of chaos (because what’s hospitality without it?). From wild award show mishaps to deep reflections on leadership and learning, this episode is a masterclass in how to stay grounded, laugh often, and never lose sight of what really matters.... people.We talk about developing talent, the psychology of hospitality, resilience, and why laughter might just be the most underrated leadership skill there is.It’s funny, thoughtful, and properly inspiring, everything you’d hope for from a conversation with one of hospitality’s brightest Learning & Development minds.Key TakeawaysLaughter Is a Leadership Tool: A good sense of humour builds connection faster than any training manualLearning Never Stops: The best leaders stay curious, and know how to make learning funResilience Is Everything: Success in hospitality means thriving through chaos, not avoiding itCulture Starts with Care: You don’t train people to leave, you train them to stayHospitality Is Joy: Give it, share it, and receive it, that’s where the real magic is.Memorable Quotes"It’s a good job we’re not running something like a nuclear power station because, you know, let’s press that big green button, let’s see what that does” - Edd Gallier“And you just saw this head rolling off the stage. It was saved, my colleague was quickly stuffing this head back on the mouse, just another day in Leonardo Awards evening life” - Edd Gallier“To succeed in hospitality, the resilience, tenacity, the psychological and behavioural skills that you have to develop, not just to survive the shift, but to have an absolute blast, it’s a real skill.” - Edd Gallier“You can put yourself into a position in this job where you’re just giving and receiving joy the whole time. I know that sounds whimsical, but I stand by the science behind it” - Phil Street“You want to make sure that your team is super engaged and super passionate so you retain them as long as you can. You don’t train people to leave, you’re training and developing them to stay” - Edd GallierFinal ThoughtsEdd's story is a celebration of humour, humanity, and heart. The very best of what hospitality can be.From accidental comedy gold to leadership gold standards, his blend of warmth, wit, and wisdom makes this episode an instant favourite.Show PartnersA big shout out to Today’s show partner, RotaCloud, the people management platform for shift-based teams.RotaCloud lets managers create and share rotas, record attendance, and manage annual leave in minutes — all from a single, web-based app.It makes work simple for your team, too, allowing them to check their rotas, request holiday, and even pick up extra shifts straight from their phones.Try RotaCloud’s time-saving tools today by heading to https://rotacloud.com/philThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
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  • #227 - Hospitality Meets Philip Steiner - Every Committee Needs a Phil
    Episode SummaryThis week on Hospitality Meets, I’m joined by the brilliant Philip Steiner, Chief Operating Officer at Cycas Hospitality a man who’s spent his whole career planning for spontaneity (yes, it’s a thing).From cleaning rooms to the C-suite, Philip’s journey is a joyful mix of graft, grit, and glorious chaos, proving that great leadership often comes down to knowing when not to turn up.Our chat is packed with laughs and we chat about BBC blunders, linen truck disasters, diversity done right, and the art of stepping back so others can shine. It’s a conversation full of laughs, insight, and those “oh, that’s so true” moments that hospitality people will feel deep in their bones.If you’ve ever tried to organise fun or manage chaos (sometimes at the same time), this one’s for you.Key TakeawaysLeadership Is Letting Go: Sometimes the best leaders get their A+ by staying homePlan for Chaos: Hospitality works best when you leave space for the unpredictableAdversity Builds Culture: The toughest days often create the strongest teamsDiversity Needs Allies: Progress happens when everyone leans in, not just those affectedYou Can’t Plan Fun: But you can create the conditions for it to happenMemorable Quotes“I got an A+ for staying home, best course ever”"You can plan everything around fun, but you can’t plan people having a good time”“Sometimes the worst of times are actually the best of times, because you pulled together and made it happen”"Even though the department is running brilliantly, it’s mostly because you’re there. Your next step is learning to do that without you there”"Every committee needs a Phil”Final ThoughtsPhilip reminds us that leadership isn’t about having all the answers, it’s about trusting your team, rolling with the madness, and laughing when plans inevitably go sideways.He’s living proof that a little planning and a lot of humanity can turn chaos into culture.Show PartnersA big shout out to Today’s show partner, RotaCloud, the people management platform for shift-based teams.RotaCloud lets managers create and share rotas, record attendance, and manage annual leave in minutes — all from a single, web-based app.It makes work simple for your team, too, allowing them to check their rotas, request holiday, and even pick up extra shifts straight from their phones.Try RotaCloud’s time-saving tools today by heading to https://rotacloud.com/philThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
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Hospitality Meets is a weekly podcast that explores the stories and journeys of people from all walks of life in the hospitality industry. Host Phil Street talks to everyone from founders and chefs to hotel general managers and restaurant managers, as well as engineers, designers, financiers, and even politicians. Through these conversations, Phil showcases the sheer diversity of opportunity that exists within hospitality, and the fun you can have along the way. He also shares insights into the latest trends and challenges facing the industry, and gives listeners a behind-the-scenes look at some of the most exciting and innovative businesses in hospitality. If you're interested in a career in hospitality, or if you're simply curious about the world of hospitality, then Hospitality Meets is the podcast for you. Join Phil for a weekly dose of inspiration, insight, and humor. This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
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