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Okay, But... Birds

Dr. Scott Taylor
Okay, But... Birds
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  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but... boobies!

    04/06/2026 | 34 mins.
    E25. The blue-footed booby has become an internet personality: cartoon feet, a goofy strut, a name that practically begs to be a punchline. But Scott sat down with Dr. Carlos Zavalaga, Universidad Científica del Sur, and one of the people who first taught him how to study seabirds in Peru, and the "fool" reputation falls apart fast. Get a booby in the air or underwater and you're watching one of the most specialized hunters in the bird family tree.
    In this episode you'll hear about:
    How six-plus booby species carve up the same ocean without starving each other out
    What 20 years of GPS loggers, depth tags, and bags of fresh fish revealed about who eats what
    Why El Niño, avian flu, and overfishing keep stacking the deck against these birds

    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    Blue-footed Booby audio contributed by Robert I. Bowman, ML85906
    Red-footed Booby audio contributed by Robert I. Bowman, ML85911
    Brown Booby audio contributed by Gerritt Vyn, ML136211
    Masked Booby audio contributed by Chandler Robbins, ML32604
    Nazca Booby audio contributed by Oliver H. Hewitt, ML31543
    Peruvian Booby audio contributed by Ted Parker, ML29399
  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but what about birds that can't fly?

    28/05/2026 | 32 mins.
    E24. Flight is the thing we associate most with birds, so what does it mean when a lineage gives it up? Dr. Scott Edwards, Harvard, joins Scott to unpack how flightlessness evolves, why it keeps happening across the bird family tree, and what the genome reveals about how a bird loses the ability to fly.
    In this episode you'll hear about:
    How losing flight reshapes a bird's body, from feathers to forelimbs to that one famously enormous egg
    Why the answer wasn't where geneticists expected to find it
    What an extinct giant and a tiny tropical relative can tell us about where moa actually came from

    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    Falkland Steamer-Duck audio contributed by Maurice A. E. Rumboll, ML4114
    Great Tinamou audio contributed by David L. Ross, Jr., ML57320
  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but can a bird really cooperate with humans?

    21/05/2026 | 33 mins.
    E23. Across sub-Saharan Africa, wild birds and people work together to find honey. No taming, no breeding, no domestication… just a partnership thousands of years in the making. Behavioral ecologist Dr. Jessica van der Wal, FitzPatrick Institute of African Ornithology, joins Scott to unpack what's actually happening when a honey hunter calls and a greater honeyguide answers.
    In this episode you'll hear about:
    What each side gets out of one of the only known mutualisms between humans and a wild animal, and why this bird in particular evolved to seek us out
    The remarkable signal the honeyguide uses to communicate with people, and what playback experiments revealed when researchers tested it across very different communities
    What happens to a partnership built over generations when one side starts buying honey at the store

    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    Greater Honeyguide audio contributed by Jennifer F. M. Horne, ML55972

    Additional media courtesy of Dr. Claire Spottiswoode and Dr. Jessica van der Wal
  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but can a bird really cooperate with humans?

    21/05/2026 | 33 mins.
    E23. Across sub-Saharan Africa, wild birds and people work together to find honey. No taming, no breeding, no domestication…  just a partnership thousands of years in the making. Behavioral ecologist Dr. Jessica van der Wal, FitzPatrick Institute of African Ornithology, joins Scott to unpack what's actually happening when a honey hunter calls and a greater honeyguide answers.

    In this episode you'll hear about:

    What each side gets out of one of the only known mutualisms between humans and a wild animal, and why this bird in particular evolved to seek us out

    The remarkable signal the honeyguide uses to communicate with people, and what playback experiments revealed when researchers tested it across very different communities

    What happens to a partnership built over generations when one side starts buying honey at the store

    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:

    Greater Honeyguide audio contributed by Jennifer F. M. Horne, ML55972

    Additional media courtesy of Dr. Claire Spottiswoode and Dr. Jessica van der Wal.
  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but can birds predict the weather?

    14/05/2026 | 34 mins.
    E22. Folklore says birds know a storm is coming before we do. Scott talks with Dr. Gunnar Kramer, Iowa State University, about what's actually happening when a tiny warbler decides it's time to fly, or time to bail.
    In this episode:
    Why the question itself might be slightly wrong, and what's really going on inside that bird
    A storm, some missing warblers, and a discovery nobody set out to make
    What 300 birds falling out of the sky over Texas can tell you about how much fuel is in the tank

    Listen, follow, and tell a friend who’s a little superstitious.
    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    Yellow-billed cuckoo audio, Wil Hershberger, ML94446
    Barnacle goose audio, Bob McGuire, ML235525
    Golden-winged warbler video, Benjamin Clock, ML476422
    Blue-winged warbler video, Eric Liner, ML469433
    Yellow-billed cuckoo video, Larry Arbanas, ML466566
    Eastern kingbird audio, Wil Hershberger, ML534398
    Tennessee warbler audio, Wil Hershberger, ML85236
    Tennessee warbler video, Eric Liner, ML466381
    Wood thrush video, Benjamin Clock, ML471755
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About Okay, But... Birds
Hosted by evolutionary biologist Dr. Scott Taylor, Okay, But... Birds explores the drama, brilliance, and science behind bird life. Each snackable 30-minute episode blends smart storytelling, expert interviews, and a touch of humor to reveal how birds shape our world . No jargon. No binoculars required. Just real science, quirky insights, and bird-brained drama you’ll want to share at brunch. Because birds aren’t background. Birds are cool.
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