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Okay, But... Birds

Dr. Scott Taylor
Okay, But... Birds
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  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but does age bring Wisdom?

    27/08/2026 | 30 mins.
    E37. A bird called Wisdom was banded on Midway Atoll in 1956 and is still laying eggs today, which makes her at least 75 and the oldest known wild bird on the planet. She has also outlived the man who banded her, and most of the scientists who tracked her since. Dr. Etienne Rouby studies long-lived seabirds at the Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research at CU Boulder, working with data from the French sub-Antarctic islands where wandering albatross have been followed for more than half a century. Scott asks him what you can learn from a bird that will outlast your career, your funding, and possibly your field station.
    In this episode you'll hear about:
    What a fledgling albatross does for the first five years of its life, and why nobody really knows
    The fishing gear change that pulled a colony back from the brink, and how long it took to see it working
    Why a very good year for female albatross is a very bad year for the males

    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    Snowy Albatross audio contributed by Ted Parker, ML42306
    Black-browed Albatross audio contributed by Jan Hansen, ML650026815
  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but do hummingbirds ever chill?

    20/08/2026 | 31 mins.
    E36. Hummingbirds run one of the fastest metabolisms of any animal with a backbone, which is why we picture them as permanently buzzing. Scott sits down with Dr. Anusha Shankar, assistant professor at the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, who studies how hummingbirds budget energy in a world that keeps moving the goalposts. It turns out the blur at your feeder is the exception, not the rule.
    In this episode you'll hear about:
    Why the same bird might spend three hours a day flying, or thirteen, depending entirely on what the flowers are doing
    What happens overnight when a hummingbird lets itself go cold, and how long it takes to come back
    Seven months in the Ecuadorian cloud forest, and the hummingbirds that sat on the nets and waited

    Plus: the doubly labeled water method, a sugar concentration threshold you can taste-test at your own feeder at your own risk, and the reason Anusha gets called the hummingbird pee person.
    The "snoring" hummingbird video Scott and Anusha discuss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uEfmQt34Nc
    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    Ruby-throated Hummingbird audio contributed by Trenton Voytko, ML604314061
    Black Metaltail audio contributed by Pedro Allasi Condo, ML663268821
    Violet-tailed Sylph audio contributed by Paul Coopmans, ML58045
    White-booted Racket-tail audio contributed by Daniel Cadena, ML256331
    Bee Hummingbird video contributed by Timothy Barksdale, ML440270

    Black Metaltail photograph by Thibaud Aronson, via iNaturalist and Wikimedia Commons, licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0.
  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but what's the deal with Darwin's finches?

    13/08/2026 | 36 mins.
    E35. Eighteen species of small brown bird on a pile of volcanic rock have taught us more about how evolution actually works than almost anything else on Earth. Not because Darwin figured them out. He didn't. Because a handful of scientists went back, banded every bird on one island, and watched it happen in real time. Scott heads to the Galapagos with Dr. Erik Enbody, Assistant Professor of Computational Biology at Cornell University, to find out how one ancestor became eighteen, why the beak is the only thing worth looking at, and what happens when species that aren't supposed to interbreed start swapping genes anyway.
    In this episode you'll hear about:
    The island so small you can band every bird on it, and the drought that killed almost all of them
    One gene that explains 40% of beak size, when nothing in human height explains even 1%
    The finch that does something mind-blowingly villainous and what it says about how far evolution will go

    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    Large Ground-Finch audio contributed by Robert I. Bowman, ML85965
    Common Cactus-Finch audio contributed by Robert I. Bowman, ML86715
    Small Tree-Finch audio contributed by Robert I. Bowman, ML85464
    Vegetarian Finch audio contributed by Robert I. Bowman, ML82506
    Galapagos Mockingbird audio contributed by Robert I. Bowman, ML45963
    Española Mockingbird audio contributed by Herb Elliott, ML638777433
    Floreana Mockingbird audio contributed by Robert I. Bowman, ML85455
    San Cristobal Mockingbird audio contributed by Arnoud B. van den Berg, ML28656
    Palm Tanager audio contributed by Curtis Marantz, ML88937
    Blue-footed Booby audio contributed by Robert I. Bowman, ML85906
    Vampire Ground-Finch audio contributed by Robert I. Bowman, ML86756
    Woodpecker Finch audio contributed by Robert I. Bowman, ML82522
    Paradise Tanager audio contributed by Curtis Marantz, ML127399
    Galápagos Sea Lion audio contributed by Arnoud B. van den Berg, ML125020
  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but what's the deal with nests?

    06/08/2026 | 29 mins.
    E34. Not all birds build one, but for the ones that do, a nest has a single job and a shockingly wide range of ways to get it done. Dr. Vanya Rohwer, Curator of Birds and Mammals at the Cornell University Museum of Vertebrates, joins Scott to walk the far end of that spectrum, from nests made entirely of spit to a colony structure heavy enough to snap the tree it sits in.
    In this episode you'll hear about:
    The complete and comical inventory of one hamerkop nest, read aloud, contents included
    What a bird does when you hand it a nest somebody else already built
    Why a shed snakeskin in a tree cavity is a calculated decoration

    New episodes every Thursday. If the show is doing it for you, leave a rating or hit follow.
    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But… Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    American Robin audio contributed by Bob McGuire, ML206448
    Baltimore Oriole audio contributed by Bob McGuire, ML219606
    Black-legged Kittiwake audio contributed by Roger Charters, ML202491
    White-nest Swiftlet audio contributed by Arnoud B. van den Berg, ML36421
    Cliff Swallow audio contributed by James (Jim) Holmes, ML92053871
    Chimney Swift audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML107413
    Hamerkop audio contributed by Anonymous, ML97562
    Eastern Whip-poor-will audio contributed by Bob McGuire, ML195774
    Montezuma Oropendola audio contributed by David L. Ross Jr., ML215446
    Western Grebe audio contributed by Bob McGuire, ML195029
    Rufous Hornero audio contributed by Mike Andersen, ML132447
    Northern Yellow Warbler audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML516692
    Sociable Weaver audio contributed by Jacob Henry, ML637193738
    Great Crested Flycatcher audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML94314
    Blue-gray Gnatcatcher audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML534430
    White-breasted Nuthatch audio contributed by Bob McGuire, ML306062
  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but how do birds handle a heatwave?

    30/07/2026 | 26 mins.
    E33. When the air temperature climbs past a bird's own body temperature, staying cool stops being free and starts to cost them water they may not have. Dr. Blair Wolf, University of New Mexico, has spent his career studying how desert birds survive heat that should kill them, and what happens when it finally gets too hot.
    In this episode you'll hear about:
    Why some backyard birds can shrug off oven-like temperatures while others just a few feet away don't make it
    The strange, water-saving trick birds use to dump heat without a single drop of sweat
    What the birds dying in these heatwaves are trying to tell us about what's coming

    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    White-winged Dove audio contributed by Raphaël Nussbaumer, ML571978241
    Verdin audio contributed by Bob McGuire, ML197163
    Black-throated Sparrow audio contributed by James (Jim) Holmes, ML573935831
    Black-throated Sparrow video contributed by Benjamin Clock, ML483211
    Mourning Dove audio contributed by James (Jim) Holmes, ML583603101
    Mourning Dove audio contributed by Anonymous, ML658417476
    Palm Cockatoo audio contributed by Emma Greig, ML201266
    Rosy-faced Lovebird audio contributed by Derek Solomon, ML168222
    Common Eider audio contributed by Bob McGuire, ML235534
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About Okay, But... Birds
Hosted by evolutionary biologist Dr. Scott Taylor, Okay, But... Birds explores the drama, brilliance, and science behind bird life. Each snackable 30-minute episode blends smart storytelling, expert interviews, and a touch of humor to reveal how birds shape our world . No jargon. No binoculars required. Just real science, quirky insights, and bird-brained drama you’ll want to share at brunch. Because birds aren’t background. Birds are cool.
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