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Pain Reprocessing Therapy Podcast

Daniella Deutsch, John Gasienica
Pain Reprocessing Therapy Podcast
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  • The No BS Guide to Self-Compassion
    Perfectionism, pressure, and the belief that we’re never “enough” are some of the most overlooked drivers of chronic pain and today’s episode digs deep into how to break that cycle.Therapist John Gasienica and special guest Vanessa Blackstone explore the emotional patterns behind nervous system dysregulation through the story of Jaycie, a nurse and mom dealing with chronic pain and burnout. They uncover how early life messages, people-pleasing, and emotional suppression (especially around anger and rest) keep us stuck and how to begin softening those patterns with real, grounded self-compassion.Vanessa also shares personal reflections on grief and healing, and the episode walks listeners through somatic and visualization tools to begin shifting pain from the inside out. Resources and Additional LinksLearn More About Pain Reprocessing Therapy (PRT)Subscribe for updates, resources, and insights in the world of chronic pain and Pain Reprocessing Therapy.Patient HubPractitioner HubLearn about WellBody Psychotherapy and how our certified therapists and coaches can support your healing journey: Visit WellBodyEmail Us: [email protected]
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  • Why Hasn't Journaling Healed Me Yet?
    In this episode, we continue our deep dive with Daniel Lyman as we analyze a session with June, a filmmaker who’s made major strides in her chronic pain recovery but finds herself stuck. Together, we unpack the fear, anger, and sadness that have been underlying her migraines—and how reframing these emotions as protective allies can create powerful breakthroughs.Daniel shares insights from his OCD and pain reprocessing background, and John uses emotional exposure and paradoxical agenda setting to help June see emotions as mature, trustworthy parts of herself.🔹 How to make journaling more effective🔹 What to do when recovery plateaus🔹 Why fear of emotions keeps the nervous system stuck🔹 How to turn fear and anger into strengths🔹 Why feeling emotions in the moment creates change Resources and Additional LinksLearn More About Pain Reprocessing Therapy (PRT)Subscribe for updates, resources, and insights in the world of chronic pain and Pain Reprocessing Therapy.Patient HubPractitioner HubLearn about WellBody Psychotherapy and how our certified therapists and coaches can support your healing journey: Visit WellBodyEmail Us: [email protected]
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  • Ask a Doctor: Is My Pain Neuroplastic? PT. 2
    This is part two of our experimental two-part series following David, a patient living with chronic foot pain. In Episode 4, David received a neuroplastic pain diagnosis. In Episode 5, we go a step further—showing what happens when that diagnosis is explored through therapy.What you’ll hear in this episode:– A live, unscripted therapy session combining Pain Reprocessing Therapy (PRT), somatic tracking, and Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy (EAET)– Real-time reduction in pain as David rewires his brain’s fear response– Exploration of childhood emotional patterns, perfectionism, and self-directed anger– A somatic shift that helps David reclaim movement, safety, and strength– Dr. Howard Schubiner’s expert commentary on the science behind each momentThis episode is about more than pain—it’s about the emotional undercurrents that shape how we experience our bodies, and the incredible transformation that can occur when we meet our pain with curiosity, compassion, and courage.Bonus: Stay tuned to the end to hear Dr. Schubiner’s reflections on the future of healing—blending neuroscience, trauma-informed care, and emotional expression into one powerful therapeutic approach. Resources and Additional LinksLearn More About Pain Reprocessing Therapy (PRT)Subscribe for updates, resources, and insights in the world of chronic pain and Pain Reprocessing Therapy.Patient HubPractitioner HubLearn about WellBody Psychotherapy and how our certified therapists and coaches can support your healing journey: Visit WellBodyEmail Us: [email protected]
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  • Ask a Doctor: Is My Pain Neuroplastic?
    This special episode captures part one of an innovative two-part series, following a patient's full neuroplastic pain journey — from diagnosis to treatment.What you'll hear in this episode:– A live neuroplastic pain assessment from Dr. Matt McClanahan, DO– Discussion of "FIT criteria" (Functional, Inconsistent, Triggered symptoms)– The impact of trauma and historical context on pain– David’s candid account of how conflicting diagnoses made recovery harder– A breakdown of why nervous system safety is essential for healingPart two of this series will feature a treatment session with David and legendary insights on how to begin retraining the brain. Resources and Additional LinksLearn More About Pain Reprocessing Therapy (PRT)Subscribe for updates, resources, and insights in the world of chronic pain and Pain Reprocessing Therapy.Patient HubPractitioner HubLearn about WellBody Psychotherapy and how our certified therapists and coaches can support your healing journey: Visit WellBodyEmail Us: [email protected]
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  • How to Stop Fixating on Pain
     Rumination—constantly monitoring symptoms, worrying about pain, and overanalyzing every sensation—can make chronic pain worse by keeping the nervous system in a state of high alert. In this episode, therapist John Gasienica works with Leslie, a new mom struggling with chronic pelvic pain and obsessive symptom fixation. Alongside expert therapist Callie Klebanoff, they break down the Pain Reprocessing Therapy (PRT) blueprint for stopping rumination and retraining the brain to feel safe.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:Why fixating on symptoms reinforces pain pathways in the brain.How symptom monitoring can do more harm than good.Practical strategies to break the cycle of overthinking pain.A real-time therapy session where Leslie learns to calm her nervous system.Key Topics & Timestamps:00:00:00 – Introduction: Why rumination fuels chronic pain00:01:00 – The cycle of symptom fixation and its impact on daily life00:02:00 – Meet Callie Klebanoff: Breaking the cycle of rumination00:03:00 – The mental load of symptom monitoring and anxiety00:04:00 – How overthinking affects the nervous system00:06:00 – Leslie’s experience: A new mom stuck in the pain-rumination loop00:07:00 – Constant symptom monitoring: How it worsens chronic pain00:09:00 – Why the brain fixates on pain and discomfort00:12:00 – Understanding intolerance of uncertainty and symptom anxiety00:18:00 – The PRT approach: Moving from overthinking to feeling safe00:23:00 – Emotional work: Addressing fear, grief, and self-doubt00:31:00 – Practical strategies to stop overthinking and retrain the brain00:39:00 – Final thoughts & next steps for listeners Resources and Additional LinksLearn More About Pain Reprocessing Therapy (PRT)Subscribe for updates, resources, and insights in the world of chronic pain and Pain Reprocessing Therapy.Patient HubPractitioner HubLearn about WellBody Psychotherapy and how our certified therapists and coaches can support your healing journey: Visit WellBodyEmail Us: [email protected]
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Discover how Pain Reprocessing Therapy can transform lives. Join pain experts as they share patient stories, actionable tools, and expert insights to help rewire the brain’s response to chronic pain. Perfect for patients and practitioners alike.
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