The 10ofthose Podcast

Welcome to Take 10! A brand new segment for the 10th season of the 10ofThose podcast, where we take on one topic in just 10 minutes. First up: forgiveness.
Tim Keller called forgiveness the hardest thing Christians are asked to do. In this episode, Jonathan and Laurie get honest about why that's the case; the pride that makes us want others to pay, the instinct to fake peace rather than do the harder work of genuine forgiveness, and the tricky question of how to forgive someone who isn't sorry. They point to Christ's example on the cross, the freeing truth that we forgive because we've first been forgiven, and a few short books worth picking up if you're wrestling with a grudge you can't quite let go of.

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Andrew Sach was an atheist who dismissed Christianity until someone challenged him to investigate the resurrection as a historical question. That single shift changed everything. Not just his beliefs, but the way he saw the Bible, the world, and what it means to actually understand Scripture rather than just read it.
In this episode of 10ofThose, Laurie and Jonathan sit down with Andrew (neuroscientist, pastor, preaching trainer, and co-author of Dig Deeper) to talk about how ordinary Christians can read the Bible for themselves without needing an expert in the room. They cover the practical tools that unlock careful reading, why context changes everything, how to get back into Scripture when the habit has gone cold, and what role the Holy Spirit actually plays alongside human effort.
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Every parent wants their kids to love reading, but Betsy Childs Howard wants something more: she wants the stories to stick. Not just as favourite books, but as moral imagination, gospel instinct, and a framework for understanding the world long after the last page is turned.
In this episode of 10ofThose, Laurie and Jonathan talk with Betsy (TGC editor and author of the beloved Arlo children's series among other titles) about how to raise kids on books that actually do something. They talk about why a great children's book only needs one big idea, why story-driven formation beats a moral lesson every time, how to use books mid-discipline rather than just at bedtime, and why the best spiritual conversations with your kids often happen not in family devotions but in the middle of a car ride.
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Millions of Christians have a daily quiet time habit. So why is biblical illiteracy so widespread in the church? Jen Wilkin has been asking that question for years, and her answer is both honest and hopeful.

In this episode of 10ofThose, Jonathan and Laurie sit down with Jen (Bible teacher, author of Women of the Word, and co-host of the Knowing Faith podcast) to talk about what quiet time culture gets right, what it gets dangerously wrong, and what a genuinely formative approach to Scripture actually looks like. They cover the false promises baked into devotional subculture, the difference between transactional and formative engagement with Scripture, why individual Bible reading must always point toward community, and what the church is missing by failing to mobilise its older saints.
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