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    Goodwin chair Anthony McCusker on AI, superstar partners and Big Law’s next era

    10/11/2026 | 38 mins.
    US firm Goodwin is pursuing a focused growth strategy built around six industries: private equity, investment funds, technology, life sciences, healthcare and real estate.
    Chair Anthony McCusker joins the podcast to explain why the firm wants its lawyers to understand clients’ businesses as deeply as their legal problems, and how that approach sits at the centre of its Goodwin 2033 strategy.
    McCusker also takes us inside the firm’s AI push. Goodwin is investing $25 million a year in technology, developing its Regina operating system and redesigning common workflows through an initiative known as GAIN.
    The conversation also covers how Goodwin funds that investment, why external capital is not under consideration and the role of London in the firm’s future.
    The Non-Billable Podcast is sponsored by Thomson Reuters. Request a demo of CoCounsel Legal, visit: https://legalsolutions.thomsonreuters.co.uk/en/products-services/cocounsel-legal-uk.html
    Chapters
    00:01 Introduction
    01:50 From Silicon Valley lawyer to Goodwin chair
    05:44 Leading Goodwin and the role of firm chair
    10:13 Why Goodwin is betting on industries over practices
    15:41 Building an AI-native law firm
    21:53 How AI could change legal delivery and pricing
    26:39 Superstar partners in the AI era
    30:07 Goodwin’s $25m-a-year AI investment
    32:31 Why London is vital to Goodwin’s strategy
    About Non-Billable
    Non-Billable is the media company for modern legal professionals across private practice, in-house and legal tech.
    Visit our website: ⁠⁠https://www.nonbillable.co.uk
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    Why Weil collapsed and what it means for Big Law with Yale Law School professor John Morley

    05/11/2026 | 44 mins.
    Weil was still generating more than $2 billion a year when its partnership unravelled. Yale Law School professor John Morley says that its collapse was driven not by financial distress, but by a decline in profitability relative to its closest rivals and a failure to choose between scale and a smaller, more elite model.
    Morley’s paper Why Law Firms Collapse examined around three dozen failures and identified a recurring “run on the partnership”. Because partners own the business and can leave with their clients, the departure of one productive partner reduces the profits available to everyone who remains - making the next departure more attractive.
    The conversation explores why superstar partners can make firms more fragile, how widening pay gaps have weakened traditional partnership cultures and why a merger may be the best escape route for a formerly elite firm losing ground.
    Morley also considers the lessons for London firms, the challenge facing private equity investors and what law firm leaders should watch for before a partner run becomes
    The Non-Billable Podcast is sponsored by Thomson Reuters. Request a demo of CoCounsel Legal, visit: https://legalsolutions.thomsonreuters.co.uk/en/products-services/cocounsel-legal-uk.html
    Chapters
    00:01 Introduction
    01:50 Why Morley began studying law firm collapses
    04:07 Why law firms shatter rather than bounce
    10:29 Why US law firms are especially fragile
    12:51 The warning signs at Weil
    18:00 Why merger talks can stop a partner run
    23:15 Superstar partners and the decline of community
    29:32 What ultimately killed Weil
    35:08 AI, private equity and lessons for law firm leaders
    About Non-Billable
    Non-Billable is the media company for modern legal professionals across private practice, in-house and legal tech.
    Visit our website: ⁠⁠https://www.nonbillable.co.uk
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    Inside offshore law with Harneys global boss William Peake

    27/10/2026 | 47 mins.
    Offshore law firms play a central role in major cross-border deals and disputes, yet the market remains unfamiliar to many lawyers.
    Harneys global managing partner William Peake explains how the model works, why onshore law firms are its most important clients and how offshore jurisdictions compete for international business.
    Peake reflects on the $9.2bn dispute that helped make his career and what lawyers can expect from a move offshore. The conversation covers recruitment, partner pay, advocacy opportunities and the reality behind the promise of high-quality work and weekends in the Caribbean.
    We also examine private equity’s growing interest in offshore legal services, how Harneys is funding its expansion and the competitive risk posed by better-capitalised rivals. Peake also explains how his unusually candid LinkedIn presence has generated millions of views, opened doors with major firms and brought new work into Harneys.
    The Non-Billable Podcast is sponsored by Thomson Reuters. Request a demo of CoCounsel Legal, visit: https://legalsolutions.thomsonreuters.co.uk/en/products-services/cocounsel-legal-uk.html
    Chapters
    00:01 Introduction
    01:40 How the offshore law firm model works
    03:26 The $9.2bn litigation that made Peake’s career
    07:56 Winning referrals from onshore law firms
    10:29 Recruiting lawyers and building a career offshore
    15:52 Partner pay, talent and accessible leadership
    20:24 Private equity and the Harneys Fiduciary sale
    33:06 Building Harneys’ profile through LinkedIn
    43:10 Ireland and the firm’s next phase of growth
    About Non-Billable
    Non-Billable is the media company for modern legal professionals across private practice, in-house and legal tech.
    Visit our website: ⁠⁠https://www.nonbillable.co.uk
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    Why the UK’s biggest law firms are pulling away from the rest of the market

    15/10/2026 | 41 mins.
    PwC’s latest law firm survey points to a growing divide in the UK legal market. The largest firms are pulling ahead, specialist players are finding profitable niches and parts of the mid-market are coming under increasing pressure.
    Mark Anderson, who leads PwC’s professional business services sector, joins the podcast to explain why more law firm mergers are inevitable and how firms caught in the “squeezed middle” can respond.
    We also discuss why widespread AI adoption has yet to translate into financial returns, how the technology could reshape pricing, whether external capital has a role in Big Law and why cyber risk is back at the top of the agenda.
    The Non-Billable Podcast is sponsored by Thomson Reuters. Request a demo of CoCounsel Legal, visit: https://legalsolutions.thomsonreuters.co.uk/en/products-services/cocounsel-legal-uk.html
    Chapters
    00:01 Introduction
    01:40 What PwC’s survey says about the UK legal market
    04:13 Why the top ten are pulling away
    06:18 The problem facing the squeezed middle
    11:19 Why more law firm mergers are inevitable
    13:51 AI adoption versus AI monetisation
    16:26 How AI could change law firm pricing
    24:44 Partner funding, private equity and Big Law
    32:21 Why cyber risk is back at the top of the agenda
    About Non-Billable
    Non-Billable is the media company for modern legal professionals across private practice, in-house and legal tech.
    Visit our website: ⁠⁠https://www.nonbillable.co.uk
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    Inside King & Spalding’s London growth push with managing partner Tom Sprange

    07/10/2026 | 38 mins.
    King & Spalding is in growth mode in London. The office increased revenue by 48% last year, has expanded its footprint at 8 Bishopsgate and recently hired a major international arbitration and litigation team from WilmerHale.
    London managing partner Tom Sprange explains why the office has become central to the US firm’s international strategy. It is now King & Spalding’s fourth-largest office, its biggest outside the US and a hub connecting the firm’s practices across Europe, the Middle East and Asia.
    The ambition is not to become a conventional full-service firm. Sprange describes a more selective model built around elite disputes, finance, private capital, investigations and regulatory work. He also explains why collaboration matters more than individual books of business, and why King & Spalding looks for practice builders rather than lawyers who simply claim to bring clients with them.
    The conversation also explores the changing economics of international arbitration, the rise of the highly paid superstar partner and how firms can stop their best lawyers being poached. Sprange closes by setting out where King & Spalding could expand next and why the firm’s trainee pipeline remains important to its London plans.
    The Non-Billable Podcast is sponsored by Thomson Reuters. Request a demo of CoCounsel Legal, visit: https://legalsolutions.thomsonreuters.co.uk/en/products-services/cocounsel-legal-uk.html
    Chapters
    00:01 Introduction
    01:40 Why London matters to King & Spalding
    03:33 Revenue growth and the London practice mix
    09:48 Not going full-service
    13:12 Fund finance and making major team hires work
    19:53 The WilmerHale raid and the changing arbitration market
    23:36 How international disputes lawyers win clients
    27:44 Superstar partners, pay and retention
    32:51 The modern partner, AI and what comes next
    About Non-Billable
    Non-Billable is the media company for modern legal professionals across private practice, in-house and legal tech.
    Visit our website: ⁠⁠https://www.nonbillable.co.uk
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About The Non-Billable Podcast
The Non-Billable Podcast takes UK legal professionals beyond the billable hour, bringing you interviews with top lawyers, law firm leaders, industry experts and legal tech innovators to uncover actionable insights on the business of law, career growth and the future of the industry. Hosted by Oliver Attinger, a former finance lawyer at a leading City law firm, and brought to you by Non-Billable, the legal media platform for City lawyers, in-house counsel, and legal professionals.
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