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Unapologetic: The Third Narrative

With Amira and Ibrahim
Unapologetic: The Third Narrative
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  • Unapologetic: The Third Narrative

    Season 2 Finale: Full Circle

    26/07/2026 | 1h 31 mins.
    Talk was never the finish line.
    Season 2 didn't ask you to just listen — it asked you to act. From engineers in Ramallah building tech for the overlooked, to a lawyer taking on a legal system stacked against her clients as well as herself, to getting tents and clean water into Gaza one delivery at a time, this season introduced us to people who refused to let conversation stop at words.
    In this finale, Amira and Ibrahim close out the season together, and like last season's finale, they're joined on camera by UTTN producer Evelyn Uzan. They sit down for an honest look back: what stirred them, what challenged them, and what it meant to spend a season amplifying people doing the work rather than just talking about it.
    Because a season built on action isn't finished when the mic turns off. Here's every initiative we've featured — if even one of these moved you, consider this your invitation to follow through:
    ⁠Kids4Peace⁠
    ⁠Tomorrow’s Women⁠
    ⁠SNS⁠
    ⁠The Gaza Children’s Village⁠⁠
    ⁠⁠Wallah We Can⁠⁠
    ⁠⁠Harmony Network⁠⁠
    ⁠Culture of Solidarity⁠⁠
    ⁠Sahwa Healing Center⁠
    ⁠Combatants for Peace⁠
    ⁠Palestinian Freedom School⁠
    ⁠Mehazkim⁠
    ⁠Haifa Majority⁠
    ⁠Standing Together⁠
    ⁠HUMAN EYES⁠
    ⁠Clean Shelter⁠
    ⁠Resolute RGL⁠
    ⁠Adalah⁠
    ⁠Breaking the Silence⁠
    ⁠Center for Jewish Nonviolence⁠
    ⁠Ta'ayush⁠
    ⁠Rabbis for Human Rights⁠
    ⁠Achvat Amim⁠
    ⁠Albi World⁠
    ⁠Makers Tech for Good⁠

    Follow us on Instagram: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠thirdnarrative⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 
    Subscribe to us on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    For more info on UTTN, visit ⁠⁠uttn.net⁠⁠ or our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Linktree⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 

    A heartfelt thank you to everyone who showed up for this season — listening, sharing, donating, taking action. It means everything, and none of this continues without you.

    Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on April 27, 2026. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.

    Credits
    ​Sponsored by: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠B8 of Hope⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with the support of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Albi World⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Hosts / Executive Producers: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amira Mohammed⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ibrahim Abu Ahmad⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Associate Producer / Editor / Audio Mix: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evelyn Uzan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Original Music: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Layan Hawila⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Support her journey as a music therapy student at Berklee
    ​Filming: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Nissan Film Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Branding: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sophie Cooke⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Animation: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Santiago Gomez⁠⁠⁠
  • Unapologetic: The Third Narrative

    Necessity Fuels Innovation

    17/05/2026 | 1h 2 mins.
    In this episode of UTTN: The Podcast, we speak with Nisreen, founder and CEO of Makers Tech for Good — a Palestinian initiative reimagining what innovation can look like when it is driven by community, necessity, and care.
    Based in Ramallah, Makers brings together engineers, therapists, designers, volunteers, and families to develop practical solutions for people often overlooked by traditional systems. In a reality marked by occupation, limited resources, and constant uncertainty, the work becomes about more than technology — it becomes about dignity, access, and the belief that people should be able to shape solutions for their own communities.
    Together, we explore the realities of building under constraint, investing in local talent, and creating impact that begins at home while resonating far beyond Palestine.
    Tune into this inspiring conversation about imagination, resilience, and the quiet power of people who continue to create despite the circumstances around them.

    Follow us on Instagram: @⁠⁠⁠⁠thirdnarrative⁠⁠⁠⁠ 
    Subscribe to us on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative⁠ ⁠⁠⁠
    For more info on UTTN, visit ⁠⁠uttn.net⁠⁠ or our ⁠⁠⁠⁠Linktree⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 

    Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on February 9, 2026. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.

    Credits
    ​Sponsored by: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠B8 of Hope⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with the support of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Albi World⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Hosts / Executive Producers: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amira Mohammed⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ibrahim Abu Ahmad⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Associate Producer / Editor / Audio Mix: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evelyn Uzan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Original Music: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Layan Hawila⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Support her journey as a music therapy student at Berklee
    ​Filming: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Nissan Film Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Branding: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sophie Cooke⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Animation: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Santiago Gomez⁠⁠
  • Unapologetic: The Third Narrative

    ALBI, there for you

    29/03/2026 | 1h 48 mins.
    In this episode, we sit with Libby Lenkinski, Founder and President of Albi, a fund, institute, and lab built on one belief: that art is not an accessory to change, it is the spark.
    After years in movement spaces, Libby turned toward culture as the ground where possibility is first imagined. What she is building with Albi is not just support for artists, but an infrastructure for imagination. A commitment to the idea that creativity can open what politics alone cannot.
    Some stories don't just move you. They change you. Through its ⁠Film and Television Fund⁠, its ⁠Palestinian Creatives Pipeline⁠ in collaboration with Jalal Masarwa and Rosalin Agbaria, and its ⁠Fáros Fellows program⁠, Albi pours itself into the stories that humanize, that ache, and that stay with you long after the screen goes dark. This is what Libby describes as "Creative Defiance." A refusal to accept a world where empathy is scarce and imagination is limited. A belief that art can reach where argument fails, and move people before they know they are ready to be moved.

    Show notes:
    At the time of recording this episode, 4 Albi-supported films were shortlisted at the Oscars: Holding Liat, The Voice of Hind Rajab, Coexistence, My Ass!, and Children No More: Were and Are Gone. Two of them were eventually nominated for Academy Awards: Children No More: Were and Are Gone for Best Documentary Short Film and The Voice of Hind Rajab for Best International Feature Film.
    In addition, here is the open letter by Avigail Sperber mentioned in the episode in relation to the cultural boycott of Israeli  films, or any kind of association with Israeli films.

    Films / Shows Mentioned in the Episode
    Arab Labor
    Our Boys
    Five Broken Cameras
    Waltz with Bashir
    Unorthodox
    Under African Skies
    Arna's Children

    Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on January 6, 2026. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.

    Credits
    ​Sponsored by: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Albi World⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Hosts / Executive Producers: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amira Mohammed⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ibrahim Abu Ahmad⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Associate Producer / Editor / Audio Mix: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evelyn Uzan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Original Music: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Layan Hawila⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Support her journey as a music therapy student at Berklee
    ​Filming: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Nissan Film Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Branding: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sophie Cooke⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Animation: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Santiago Gomez⁠⁠
  • Unapologetic: The Third Narrative

    Clean Shelter

    01/03/2026 | 54 mins.
    What began as a conversation did not stay there. It turned into persistence. Into urgency. Into late-night phone calls and constant coordination. Into people refusing to sit still.
    At the center of it was a question: What do the people of Gaza need right now, and how do we get it to them?
    Clean Shelter was born from that question, and from two women who refused to be bystanders.
    In this episode, we are joined remotely for the first time this season by Seba AbuDaqa and Tom Kellner, founders of the German NGO now working alongside teams on the ground in Gaza. But this work does not begin abroad. It begins inside Gaza itself. The volunteers there know what their communities need. They know the terrain, the shortages, and the risks. They know how to build, repair, and distribute under impossible conditions.
    Seba and Tom walk us through the logistics and daily problem-solving behind what they call “the bare minimum”: sanitary needs and shelter solutions for tens of thousands of Gazans. What sounds simple on paper requires resourcefulness, trust, and people on the ground who are willing to act.
    While the world debates the future of Gaza, Clean Shelter is urgently tending to its present, one tent, one desalination unit, and one toilet at a time.
    This is a conversation about refusing to let dialogue end at words, and about what happens when people carry it forward into action.
    Donate to Clean Shelter here, and be sure to check out HUMAN EYES - a powerful project with proceeds going directly to them.

    Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on December 1, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.

    Credits
    ​Sponsored by: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠B8 of Hope⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with the support of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Albi World⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Hosts / Executive Producers: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amira Mohammed⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ibrahim Abu Ahmad⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Associate Producer / Editor / Audio Mix: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evelyn Uzan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Original Music: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Layan Hawila⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Support her journey as a music therapy student at Berklee
    ​Filming: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Nissan Film Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Branding: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sophie Cooke⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Animation: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Santiago Gomez⁠⁠
  • Unapologetic: The Third Narrative

    Disruptive Education

    08/02/2026 | 1h 37 mins.
    Stories are how we learn who we are, who belongs, and who we’re taught to fear. Some stories are inherited so early they feel like truth. Others begin to fracture only when lived reality no longer matches what we were told.
    In this episode we're joined by Becca Strober, an educator and organizer whose life has been shaped by the slow, painful unraveling of the stories they grew up with. From Jerusalem to the U.S., from Zionist education to military service, Becca traces the moments where ideology met reality, and where the language of security, morality, and defense gave way to the lived experience of occupation, apartheid, and the continuing Nakba.
    The conversation moves through memory and encounter: the normalization of control in the West Bank, the legal architecture of military rule, and the quiet ways dehumanization is taught and sustained. Becca reflects on what it means to realize that participation in a system of violence doesn’t always look like cruelty. Sometimes it looks like routine, obedience, and silence.
    This is an episode about unlearning, the cost of seeing clearly and about what becomes possible when justice is no longer treated as abstract. Becca speaks about the role of education as disruption, about solidarity as practice rather than sentiment, and about the importance of showing up on the ground, not to lead, but to stand alongside. It asks what safety really means, who it is built for, and whether a future rooted in equality between the river and the sea can exist without first confronting the stories that brought us here.

    Episode Links:
    Becca Explains the Occupation
    Breaking the Silence
    Center for Jewish Nonviolence
    Ta'ayush
    Rabbis for Human Rights
    Achvat Amim
    The Disillusioned Podcast

    Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on October 8, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.

    Credits
    ​Sponsored by: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠B8 of Hope⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with the support of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Albi World⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Hosts / Executive Producers: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amira Mohammed⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ibrahim Abu Ahmad⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Associate Producer / Supervising Editor / Audio Mix: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evelyn Uzan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Original Music: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Layan Hawila⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Support her journey as a music therapy student at Berklee
    ​Filming & Editing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Nissan Film Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Branding: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sophie Cooke⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    ​Animation: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Santiago Gomez⁠⁠
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About Unapologetic: The Third Narrative
UTTN is an independent podcast created and hosted by Palestinian activists Amira Mohammed (‘67) and Ibrahim Abu Ahmad (‘48). For decades, narratives on Palestine and Israel have been deeply polarized, fueling division and sustaining inequalities that block justice and peace. A Third Narrative is essential to break this cycle. It fosters an inclusive community for those seeking real solutions and committed to nonviolence. It envisions a future that doesn’t just mediate between sides but transforms the conversation—paving the way for meaningful change.
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