Frequency

Chuck Gose & Jenni Field
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  • Frequency

    Half Feel Engaged Yet Plan to Leave: Bullshit Jobs, the Clarity Crisis and RTO as Stealth Layoffs

    04/05/2026 | 39 mins.
    In this episode of Frequency, Jenni Field and Chuck Gose dig into four stories that, taken together, make a pretty uncomfortable case: that modern work is increasingly built on theatre and ambiguity.

    From a personal essay that went viral, to engagement data from two continents, to the real story behind return-to-office mandates, this episode asks what happens when the structures organisations rely on stop working - and nobody says anything.

    The first story is a personal essay from someone who confessed to spending an entire year at a software company doing no work - and never being found out. Her piece draws on David Graeber's concept of bullshit jobs - roles so pointless that even the person doing them cannot justify their existence - with Graeber estimating that 20 to 50% of all jobs fit that description.

    Firstup have published some reports into employee engagement, surveying over 3,000 employees across corporate, manager, and hourly worker roles in both North America and the UK. The headline finding is that employee engagement scores look healthy on paper, but they are masking a significant and growing retention crisis. Nearly half of employees say they are engaged, and nearly half are also planning to leave within 12 months. The real question Chuck and Jenni discuss is what are the drivers behind why people stay if they aren’t engaged?

    The third story, from Startups Magazine, is titled The Clarity Crisis: Why Your Culture Problem is Actually a Communication Problem. Its central argument is that what leaders diagnose as a culture problem is most often a communication problem, specifically a failure around clarity. It’s not new, but how does this knowledge start to have an impact with managers and leaders in the workplace?

    The final story examines some return-to-office stats and trends for the USA. Only 27% of companies have returned to a fully in-person model, while 67% continue to offer some form of hybrid flexibility. Perhaps the most revealing statistic in the report: 25% of executives and 18% of HR professionals admit they hoped some employees would voluntarily leave because of an RTO policy - something Chuck calls out as weak.  

     

    Want to find out more about Chuck’s work and ICology - check out the website and how to become a member here: https://www.joinicology.com/ 

    Jenni’s a regular speaker and consultant on leadership credibility and internal communication, you can find out more about how to learn from her and work with her here: https://thejennifield.com/

     

    Articles mentioned in this episode: 

    (00:40) The US and UK special relationship

    (04:11) I did no work for a year and no one noticed

    (10:19) Firstup report on employee engagement

    (17:14) The clarity crisis: why your ‘culture’ problem is actually a communication problem

    (22:20) Essential Return-to-Office Statistics and Trends (2026) USA insights 

    Episode's official page:  Half Feel Engaged Yet Plan to Leave: Bullshit Jobs, the Clarity Crisis and RTO as Stealth Layoffs
  • Frequency

    78% Start Motivated. Something Breaks Them: Clarity, IC Courage, and AI's Real Blocker

    27/04/2026 | 29 mins.
    This week on Frequency, Jenni Field and Chuck Gose look at the data behind why employees lose motivation, the question of whether internal comms has become too comfortable to be useful, and two perspectives on where the real friction in AI transformation actually lives.

     

    1️⃣ The first story comes from the Predictive Index, which surveyed more than 1,000 US employees in 2026 and found that 78% began their current role feeling motivated — but only 16% say their work always feels meaningful. For Jenni, the data points to something organisations keep getting wrong: the assumption that meaning, once communicated, sticks. Chuck zeroes in on the clarity finding and makes the case that it's also one of the more fixable problems: leaders just need to tell people what to focus on, and then actually hold that line from week to week.

     

    2️⃣ The second conversation is sparked by a provocative LinkedIn post from Simon Cavendish, chair of the IABC EMENA and a senior IC consultant, who argues that internal comms has become addicted to alignment with too many IC teams producing beautifully crafted messages for fundamentally bad decisions. Access to leadership, he says, has become more important than actually using that access to push back. The quote Jenni and Chuck both land on: being in the room isn't the win — what we do in the room is the win. 

     

    3️⃣ The third story takes on one of the biggest assumptions shaping how organisations measure AI right now: that adoption is the goal. Charter's Brian Elliott brought together practitioners from Atlassian, Zapier, Udemy, and others for a closed-door forum on AI measurement, and the conclusion from those furthest along in their AI journeys is that adoption as a metric is quietly being abandoned. Microsoft's summary of the shift: we used to pay attention to adoption, now we just pay attention to performance. Jenni draws a direct line back to lessons from digital transformation programmes, where teams chased adoption numbers without ever anchoring to business outcomes. Chuck pushes back a little: 97% adoption of anything is a significant signal.

     

    4️⃣ The final story comes from Rebecca Hinds, writing in Inc., who makes the case that the real blocker to AI transformation isn't the tools — it's the narrative leaders encode into their culture before the rollout even starts. Drawing on research from Bob Sutton's AI Transformation 100 report, she surfaces a hard finding: when leaders deploy AI in ways that strip craft and human touch from work, what's left is a hollow shell with little meaning. Chuck pushes back on Jenni's earlier framing that AI change is like any other change campaign — he thinks the scale of what's shifting makes it categorically different. Jenni also flags that ethical dimensions are increasingly in focus, pointing to new AI ethics guidance being developed through CIPR Inside, and the importance of maintaining the human check in any AI-assisted process.

     

    Want to find out more about Chuck’s work and ICology - check out the website and how to become a member here: https://www.joinicology.com/ 

    Jenni’s a regular speaker and consultant on leadership credibility and internal communication, you can find out more about how to learn from her and work with her here: https://thejennifield.com/

     

    Articles mentioned in this episode: 

    Running on Empty: How Modern Work Created a Motivation Crisis

    Lead, Follow or Choice: The Choice Facing Internal Comms

    Why Four Tech Companies Say Adoption Is the Wrong AI Metric

    The Biggest Threat to Your AI Strategy Isn't the Technology
  • Frequency

    $50B Corporate Wellness Market Is Stagnant: BANI, Toxic Culture, and When to Disagree with Your CEO

    20/04/2026 | 39 mins.
    This week on Frequency, Chuck and Jenni explore why the $50 billion global corporate wellness market has become its only stagnant sector, break down the BANI framework and what it demands from communicators and leaders, debate whether "toxic culture" is a useful label at all, and tackle the career-defining question of whether you should ever push back on your CEO.

    The first story comes from research across Southeast Asian workplaces, where companies are investing heavily in wellness perks and platforms while seeing little return. William Fleming, a research fellow at Oxford's Wellbeing Research Centre, argues that off-the-shelf interventions like generic apps and training modules fail because they treat well-being in isolation — changing the worker rather than the workplace. Chuck points to the work of wellness expert Mark Mohammadpour - link below to find out more. 

    The second story digs into the BANI framework — Brittle, Anxious, Non-linear, Incomprehensible — originally coined by futurist Jamais Cascio and recently resurfaced in a McKinsey article. Chuck and Jenni agree the question isn't whether the world is BANI — it clearly is — but what does that means for how organisations communicate and lead. 

    The third story takes on the increasingly overused phrase "toxic culture," prompted by a LinkedIn article that lists eight signs of a toxic workplace: poor communication, high employee turnover, lack of recognition, micro-management, cliques and favouritism, unethical behaviour, burnout and chronic stress, and resistance to change. Chuck and Jenni both push back — not because the list is wrong, but because it describes most workplaces, and labelling everything toxic risks making the diagnosis meaningless.

    The final story comes from a panel at Incomm's Strategic Internal Comms Conference, where communications experts debated whether you should ever disagree with your CEO. Chuck's answer is yes — but verbalising that disagreement is a different conversation entirely, shaped heavily by psychological safety, access, and relationship. Jenni reflects on her own practice of using questions rather than direct challenge — asking leaders to help her understand the reasoning behind a decision rather than stating disagreement outright — as a form of productive, adult-to-adult coaching. 

    Want to find out more about Chuck’s work and ICology - check out the website and how to become a member here: https://www.joinicology.com/ 

    Jenni’s a regular speaker and consultant on leadership credibility and internal communication, you can find out more about how to learn from her and work with her here: https://thejennifield.com/

     

    Articles mentioned in this episode: 

    Southeast Asia’s business leaders want wellness at work—as long as the programs get real results
    A BANI world

    What Does a Toxic Organisational Culture Actually Look Like?
    Should you ever disagree with your CEO?

    Learn more about Mark Mohammadpour
  • Frequency

    Jargon Lovers Score Worst: AIDR, CFO-Led AI Cuts and the 48-Hour Productivity Cliff

    13/04/2026 | 29 mins.
    This episode marks one year of Frequency! 

    Jenni Field and Chuck Gose dig into four stories that together reveal a system under pressure: from the psychology of corporate jargon to an emerging reader backlash against AI-generated content, the CFOs quietly reshaping workforce decisions, and the persistent myth that more hours means more output.

    A Cornell psychologist has built a "corporate BS receptivity scale" tested on more than 1,000 workers, and the results are uncomfortable. People who rate jargon-heavy language as business savvy score significantly worse on analytical thinking, cognitive reflection, and workplace decision-making — while also reporting higher job satisfaction. 

    A new term is spreading online: AIDR, short for "AI didn't read," used by readers to dismiss content that smells like it came from a chatbot rather than a person. Developer David Minajirode coined it on. Jenni and Chuck argue that the real issue isn't AI assistance, it's authenticity — if you couldn't be bothered to write it, why should anyone be bothered to read it? 

    A survey of around 750 CFOs by Duke University economist John Graham, alongside economists from the Federal Reserve Banks of Atlanta and Richmond, found that while AI had essentially no employment effect in 2025, CFOs now expect a 0.4% reduction in overall headcount this year — concentrated almost entirely in clerical, administrative, and customer service roles. 

    The final story uses new World Bank and UC Berkeley research — showing the world's employed adults work an average of 42 hours a week — to open up a much bigger question: what does the number of hours actually signal? Stanford research on British munitions workers from World War I found output declined beyond 48 hours and added nothing beyond 63. Yet Sergey Brin has reportedly called 60 hours the sweet spot, and Narayana Murthy of Infosys has advocated for 70-plus-hour weeks. 

    Want to find out more about Chuck’s work and ICology - check out the website and how to become a member here: https://www.joinicology.com/ 

    Jenni’s a regular speaker and consultant on leadership credibility and internal communication, you can find out more about how to learn from her and work with her here: https://thejennifield.com/

     

    Articles mentioned in this episode: 
    📍 People who love corporate BS are bad at their jobs, new Cornell research confirms
    🔗 https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/people-who-love-corporate-bs-are-bad-at-their-jobs-new-cornell-research-confirms/91314405

    📍 'AI; didn't read': AI;DR is the new TL;DR
    🔗 https://www.fastcompany.com/91498062/ai-didnt-read-aidr-is-the-new-tldr

    📍 America's chief financial officers say AI is coming for admin jobs
    🔗 https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-admin-job-market-6a1c3436

    📍 How many hours should employees work? A question that reveals something about every boss
    🔗 https://www.economist.com/business/2025/12/04/how-many-hours-should-employees-work
  • Frequency

    21% Trust Leaders: Kano's Fix, Ineffective Meetings & the Root of Psychological Safety

    06/04/2026 | 30 mins.
    From the science behind psychological safety to a product development model being applied to the trust crisis, via the ongoing debate about whether meetings count as real work, this is an episode full of practical frameworks and direct perspectives.

    Jenni opens the conversation by exploring the Eat Sleep Work Repeat podcast, hosted by Bruce Daisley, which features Professor Katrien Franzen and her research on leadership and social identity. The central insight is the concept of "we-ness" — the idea that without a genuine sense of team belonging, psychological safety simply cannot take hold. Professor Franzen's research identifies four distinct leadership roles: task leader, motivational leader, social leader, and external leader. Jenni and Chuck examine whether it is realistic to expect formal leaders to embody all four.

    The conversation turns to a Fortune article reporting that business leaders are raising the alarm over meeting culture, with Southwest Airlines CEO Bob Jordan among the latest to speak out. Nearly 80% of workers say they are drowning in meetings, and an Atlassian study of 5,000 workers across four continents found that 72% of meetings are deemed ineffective. 

    Shel Holtz's recent LinkedIn article introduces a framework that applies the Kano model — developed by Professor Noriaki Kano in the 1980s for product management — to the challenge of rebuilding employee trust. The context makes the framework all the more urgent: Gallup data shows only 21% of US employees strongly agree they trust their organisation's leadership, and the Edelman Trust Barometer has recorded its first global decline in employee trust in the study's 26-year history. 

    Jenni closes the episode with a look at the UK's Best Workplaces 2026 list. The numbers behind the list make the case compellingly: UK best workplaces perform more than four times better than the market and generate 6.25 times greater revenue per employee. Chuck raises a fair challenge about the nature of paid-for lists and the many great workplaces that simply are not on them, while Jenni argues that for internal comms and HR professionals the more productive question is: what are these organisations doing to build the trust that sits behind these results, and what can we learn from them?

     

    Articles mentioned in this episode: 

    Nike CEO vents to employees

    Eat Sleep Work Repeat: We-ness: The secret cause of Psychological Safety

    Meetings are not work

    The trust recession

    Best places to work in the UK 2026

    Want to find out more about Chuck’s work and ICology - check out the website and how to become a member here: https://www.joinicology.com/ 

    Jenni’s a regular speaker and consultant on leadership credibility and internal communication, you can find out more about how to learn from her and work with her here: https://thejennifield.com/

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Frequency is where internal comms, HR, leadership and employee experience come together with lively conversation, expert insights, and plenty of friendly debate. Hosted by industry firestarters Chuck Gose and Jenni Field, this podcast tackles the big workplace challenges—from reaching frontline employees to shaping a strong company culture—all with a mix of sharp opinions, candid stories, and discussion.Chuck and Jenni bring their unique perspectives and personalities to every episode, ensuring you get more than just the usually-tedious industry insights. Whether it’s sparking new ideas or challenging the status quo, Frequency is the conversation you didn’t know you needed.Tune in for a weekly dose of everything you need to know about leadership, workplace culture and employee engagement.a3cffaee93e954f93bbedfafc22bc42959cf432b
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