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  • 258 - Wangeci Kanjama, Group CFO: BRICS Series, Spiro - Explorer and Adopters of New Technology, By Nature
    Let us know your thoughts. Send us a Text Message. Follow me to see #HeadsTalk Podcast Audiograms every Monday on LinkedInEpisode Title:๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ชExplorer and Adopters of New Technology, By Nature๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ชAnother insightful episode of Heads Talk today. It was such a pleasure to speak with my guest today. I found her content incredibly thoughtful and walked away with a much deeper understanding of the fintech, finance, and growth landscape in East Africa, especially their sharp focus on strategic partnerships.Wangeci Kanjama is the CFO of Spiro, a pan-African company leading the way in sustainable mobility and smart battery solutions. She joined the organisation in November 2023, bringing over 20 years of experience across finance, strategy, and operations.Before Spiro, she held senior leadership roles at M-Pesa Africa, including Finance Director and Director of Partnerships & Special Projects. She also spent nearly two decades at Safaricom Plc, heading up various strategic finance functions.It was so refreshing to hear about the developments across the African continent, and the intentional leapfrogging happening with purpose. Wangeci also shares insights into Spiroโ€™s strategic alignment with the BRICS+ alliance, particularly with some of its newer members and the exciting collaborations underway. Have a listen.Topics Coveredโ—ฝ๏ธKenyaโ€™s Financial Leadership in Africa: Whatโ€™s driving Kenyaโ€™s status as East Africaโ€™s financial and ICT hub, and how it can sustain its edge amid growing regional competitionโ—ฝ๏ธCFOs as Strategic Catalysts in Africa, innovation leaders with a growing need for strategic and cross-functional skillsโ—ฝ๏ธScaling Fintech Across Africa, adaptable platforms and navigation of diverse regulatory landscapesโ—ฝ๏ธInnovative Financing for Sustainable MobilitySpiro is delivering sustainable mobility through innovative financing models tailored to Africaโ€™s infrastructure needsโ—ฝ๏ธStrategic Partnerships and Public-Private Collaboration, to accelerating energy and mobility transformation across the continentโ—ฝ๏ธKenya and BRICS+ Alignmentโ—ฝ๏ธFinancial Integration into Global Investment Networksโ—ฝ๏ธKenyaโ€™s Financial Services DNA, success in fintech, financial culture, and talent development is drawing international attentionSo downloadโณgrab a cup of Bird & Blend Tea Co. - Mocha Chai Tea โ˜•๏ธ& have a listen๐Ÿ›‹Episode Sponsored byโ—ฝ๏ธAccxia - ๐”ผ๐•ฆ๐•ฃ๐• ๐•ก๐•–'๐•ค ๐•ƒ๐•’๐•ฃ๐•˜๐•–๐•ค๐•ฅ โ„™๐•ฃ๐•š๐•ง๐•’๐•ฅ๐•– โ„‚๐•๐• ๐•ฆ๐•• ๐•—๐• ๐•ฃ ๐”ธ๐•ฅ๐•๐•’๐•ค๐•ค๐•š๐•’๐•ŸABOUT THE HOST#AFlyOnTheBoardroomWall #HTBRICSSeries #HeadsTalkPodcastSupport the showFollow, Support, Contact Heads Talk - A Fly On The Boardroom Wall LinkedIn Website Twitter Email at [email protected]
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  • 257 - Paolo Sironi, Global Research Leader: Fintech Series, IBM - The Fintech Globetrotter That Got Awayโ€ฆ Until Now! - Part 1
    Let us know your thoughts. Send us a Text Message. Follow me to see #HeadsTalk Podcast Audiograms every Monday on LinkedInEpisode Title: ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡นThe Globetrotter That Got Awayโ€ฆ Until Now! - Part 1 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡นIn this 2-part special on Heads Talk is a masterclass in all things fintech, regulation, and behavioural banking, brought to you by my brilliant guest.ย You know those rare moments when you hear someone speak and think, โ€œIf only they were my professor back in the dayโ€? This is one of those moments. My guest doesnโ€™t just talk about his subject, he lives it. A natural educator, his insights hit with the clarity and depth of a keynote, no matter the continent. And yes, I'mย  convinced that even if I took a summer break to Ulaanbaatar in Outer Mongolia or Iquitos in Peru, he would be there doing a Keynote at the same time. This guy is global!Paolo Sironi is the Global Research Leader in Banking and Financial Markets at the IBM Institute for Business Value. With a career spanning startup founding, quantitative risk management, and now global thought leadership, Paolo is widely regarded as one of the most listened to voices in fintech and financial AI. His work focuses on the intersection of technology, regulation, and human behaviour in the transformation of banking systems. He is also a bestselling author of Banks and Fintech on Platform Economies and the host of The Bankers' Bookshelf podcast, where he continues to shape conversations around digital finance, platform economies, and the evolving trust landscape between financial institutions and customers.Funnily enough, I first came across Paolo through mutual connections, which led me to his work and thought-provoking posts.ย Topics Coveredโ—ฝ๏ธAgentic AI and the Redefinition of Trust: How agent-based systems are influencing fiduciary responsibility and transforming customer relationships with autonomous financial decision-making systemsโ—ฝ๏ธGovernance & Risk in AI-driven Finance: Why trust in machines hinges on transparency, explainability, and robust ethical frameworks, and what kind of governance structures are needed to support themโ—ฝ๏ธDigital Identity as the Backbone of Ethical Finance: How digital identity is becoming foundational for secure financial access, and what risks financial institutions face if they fail to lead in building interoperable and privacy-preserving identity frameworksโ—ฝ๏ธAI-Driven Personalisation in Financial Services: Exploring real-time analytics, embedded intelligence, and how banks can use behavioural data for meaningful, contextual client experiencesโ—ฝ๏ธThe Future of Financial Inclusion and Platform Ecosystems: Linking identity and inclusion in platform economies and examining whether traditional institutions risk obsolescence in the face of decentralised and user-controlled identity systemsEpisode Sponsored byโ—ฝ๏ธAccxia - ๐”ผ๐•ฆ๐•ฃ๐• ๐•ก๐•–'๐•ค ๐•ƒ๐•’๐•ฃ๐•˜๐•–๐•ค๐•ฅ โ„™๐•ฃ๐•š๐•ง๐•’๐•ฅ๐•– โ„‚๐•๐• ๐•ฆ๐•• ๐•—๐• ๐•ฃ ๐”ธ๐•ฅ๐•๐•’๐•ค๐•ค๐•š๐•’๐•ŸABOUT THE HOST ย #AFlyOnTheBoardroomWall #HTFintechSeriesSupport the showFollow, Support, Contact Heads Talk - A Fly On The Boardroom Wall LinkedIn Website Twitter Email at [email protected]
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  • 256 - Dr. Henry Huiyao Wang็Ž‹่พ‰่€€, President: BRICS Series, Center for China & Globalisation (CCG) - The Thucydides Trap
    Let us know your thoughts. Send us a Text Message. Follow me to see #HeadsTalk Podcast Audiograms every Monday on LinkedInEpisode Title:๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณThe Thucydides Trap๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณAn insightful and timely episode for the #HTBRICSSeries on Heads Talk exploring the realities and the risks of The Thucydides Trap: the historical pattern where a rising power threatens to displace an established one, often resulting in conflict.Dr Henry Huiyao Wang, Founder and President of the Centre for China and Globalisation (CCG), is a leading academic in the fields of geopolitics, global governance, and international trade. His previous roles include serving as a Counsellor to Chinaโ€™s State Council, Vice Chairman of the China Association for International Economic Cooperation, and Director at the Chinese Peopleโ€™s Institute of Foreign Affairs.In this episode, Dr Wang brings a measured and strategic perspective on how the United States and China might avoid escalation and manage their complex relationship through diplomacy rather than confrontation.He provides a sharp, nuanced analysis of global diplomacy in an increasingly multipolar world, looking into China's unique approach to international engagement, the rationale behind the expansion of BRICS+, and why reforming global governance is now a critical imperative.Together, we move past familiar headlines to explore the underlying logic of China's development strategy, foreign policy goals, and use of soft power. Dr Wang also shares his perspective on democracyโ€™s evolution, arguing for a broader, more adaptive understanding in light of technological progress and diverse governance models.We touch on key themes such as globalisation, securitisation, and China's partnerships across the Global South. All framed through the lens of strategic cooperation rather than ideological rivalry. This episode is a rare glimpse into China's thinking, offering a #FlyOnTheBoardroomWall view of its diplomatic philosophy and long-term global outlook.Topics Coveredโ—ฝ๏ธ BRICS+ expansion as a tool of multilateral rebalancingโ—ฝ๏ธ ASEAN economic integration and China's strategic participationโ—ฝ๏ธ Soft power as a geopolitical lever in great power dynamicsโ—ฝ๏ธ Visa Liberalisation as a Diplomatic Signal and Economic Driverโ—ฝ๏ธ Evolving calculus of China US strategic rivalryโ—ฝ๏ธ China's deepening ties with the Global Southโ—ฝ๏ธ Transition from Export-led Growth to Tech-driven Developmentโ—ฝ๏ธ Infrastructure diplomacy through Belt and Road and beyondโ—ฝ๏ธ Africa: Focal point for Chinaโ€™s soft power deploymentโ—ฝ๏ธ Reframing foreign aid without political conditionsโ—ฝ๏ธ Future of democracy in a post-Westphalian contextโ—ฝ๏ธ China's vision for a more inclusive and multipolar global orderABOUT THE HOSTCollaboration w/tโ—ฝ๏ธCGTN - China Global Television Network Publications by Dr Wang 1. Springerย  2. .Routledge #AFSupport the showFollow, Support, Contact Heads Talk - A Fly On The Boardroom Wall LinkedIn Website Twitter Email at [email protected]
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  • 255 - Hang Yu, CEO: BRICS Series, RSI - Vietnamโ€™s Bamboo Diplomacy & 20 Year Plan for High Income Status
    Let us know your thoughts. Send us a Text Message. Follow me to see #HeadsTalk Podcast Audiograms every Monday on LinkedInEpisode Title:๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณVietnamโ€™s Bamboo Diplomacy & 20 Year Plan for High Income Status๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณAnother insightful and timely episode of Heads Talk as part of the BRICS & Geopolitics series (#HTBRICSSeries).In a significant development, Brazil, Chair of BRICS 2025, officially announced on June 13 that Vietnam has been named one of 10 BRICS partner countries. This new partnership format expands engagement with key emerging economies without granting full membership status.Vietnam joins a select group of BRICS partners: Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Nigeria, Thailand, Uganda, and Uzbekistan. The move shows growing recognition of Vietnamโ€™s importance in global supply chains, its emerging tech ecosystem, and its geopolitical balancing efforts.The episode features Hang Vu, CEO of RSI Consulting Asia, a strategic advisory firm that guides global investors and local enterprises through Vietnamโ€™s complex and fast-evolving market landscape.Hang previously held Senior Executive positions at Vingroup, one of Vietnamโ€™s largest private conglomerates, where she led enterprise-wide transformation initiatives across high-growth sectors including technology, retail, real estate, and healthcare.Now, through RSI, Hang works at the intersection of policy, innovation, and strategy, advising firms on navigating regulatory reform, geopolitical risk, and digital transformation. All within the context of Vietnamโ€™s Vision 2045, which aims to achieve high-income, developed nation status.Topics Coveredโ—ฝ๏ธ Strategic Implications of Vietnamโ€™s BRICS Partnershipโ—ฝ๏ธ Vietnamโ€™s Role in the Multipolar Global Orderโ—ฝ๏ธ Innovation Hubs and State-Backed Tech Accelerationโ—ฝ๏ธ Digital Infrastructure and AI Adoption in Vietnamโ—ฝ๏ธ Navigating Regulatory Reform and SOE Transformationโ—ฝ๏ธ Industrial Policy and Vietnamโ€™s Climb Up the Value Chainโ—ฝ๏ธ Vision 2045: Strategic Sectors and National Development Goalsโ—ฝ๏ธ Market Access and Risk Mitigation for Foreign Investorsโ—ฝ๏ธ Bamboo Diplomacy: Vietnamโ€™s Non-Aligned Strategy in Practiceโ—ฝ๏ธ Advisory at the Intersection of Policy, Capital, and TechnologySo downloadโณgrab a cup of Bird & Blend Tea Co. - Mocha Chai Tea โ˜•๏ธ& have a listen๐Ÿ›‹Episode Sponsored byโ—ฝ๏ธAccxia - ๐”ผ๐•ฆ๐•ฃ๐• ๐•ก๐•–'๐•ค ๐•ƒ๐•’๐•ฃ๐•˜๐•–๐•ค๐•ฅ โ„™๐•ฃ๐•š๐•ง๐•’๐•ฅ๐•– โ„‚๐•๐• ๐•ฆ๐•• ๐•—๐• ๐•ฃ ๐”ธ๐•ฅ๐•๐•’๐•ค๐•ค๐•š๐•’๐•ŸABOUT THE HOST#AFlyOnTheBoardroomWall #HTBRICSSeries #HeadsTalkPodcastSupport the showFollow, Support, Contact Heads Talk - A Fly On The Boardroom Wall LinkedIn Website Twitter Email at [email protected]
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  • 254 - Paul Donovan, Group Chief Economist: BRICS Series, UBS - Economists, Tell A Better Story
    Let us know your thoughts. Send us a Text Message. Follow me to see #HeadsTalk Podcast Audiograms every Monday on LinkedInEpisode Title:๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡งEconomists, Tell A Better Story๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡งWe kickstart the new series on Heads Talk with the formidable Paul Donovan, Group Chief Economist at UBS.Iโ€™ve had Paul on my radar for several years, and I was thrilled when he agreed to join the show to discuss all things Economics and Geopolitics. This is the BRICS & Geopolitics series, #HTBRICSSeries, where we explore global developments around money, trade, politics, conflict, and everything in between.This episode was packed with great insight. A strong opening for the series! I highly recommend following Paulโ€™s blog Economics Without Jargon. Iโ€™ve been a subscriber for a while now, and his sharp, early-morning commentary is a must-read (or you can listen to the audio).ย At Heads Talk, we aim to provide balanced discussions. While many guests will speak on the rise of the BRICS alliance, Paul challenges this narrative. He argues BRICS is not a proven concept but more akin to the G20. Perhaps a talking shop, rather than a coordinated economic force. A fascinating take and typical of his candid nature. That is exactly why Iโ€™ve wanted to have him on the show for quite some time.Topics Coveredโ—ฝ๏ธShifting Balance of Global Powerโ—ฝ๏ธDollar Dominance and Challenges from Emerging Blocsโ—ฝ๏ธEconomic Nationalism and the Return of Prejudice Politicsโ—ฝ๏ธPost-Bretton Woods System and the Search for Stabilityโ—ฝ๏ธReserve Currency Changes and the Rise of Localisationโ—ฝ๏ธSupply Chain Restructuring and Strategic Realignmentsโ—ฝ๏ธExport-Led Growth Models and Their Viability Todayโ—ฝ๏ธInterpreting Geopolitical Signals Through an Economistโ€™s Lensโ—ฝ๏ธDecoding Policy Noise and Its Economic Consequencesโ—ฝ๏ธMaking Economics UnderstandableSo downloadโณgrab a cup of Bird & Blend Tea Co. - Mocha Chai Tea โ˜•๏ธ& have a listen๐Ÿ›‹Episode Sponsored byโ—ฝ๏ธAccxia - ๐”ผ๐•ฆ๐•ฃ๐• ๐•ก๐•–'๐•ค ๐•ƒ๐•’๐•ฃ๐•˜๐•–๐•ค๐•ฅ โ„™๐•ฃ๐•š๐•ง๐•’๐•ฅ๐•– โ„‚๐•๐• ๐•ฆ๐•• ๐•—๐• ๐•ฃ ๐”ธ๐•ฅ๐•๐•’๐•ค๐•ค๐•š๐•’๐•ŸABOUT THE HOST#AFlyOnTheBoardroomWall #HTBRICSSeries #HeadsTalkPodcastSubscribe to Pauls' Economist: Without The Jargon hereSupport the showFollow, Support, Contact Heads Talk - A Fly On The Boardroom Wall LinkedIn Website Twitter Email at [email protected]
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