In this episode, we dive headfirst into one of the biggest changes of our time: AI.
Jo believes AI is moving fast and could be dangerous if left unchecked. Kev? Not convinced and frankly a bit exhausted by constant change.
From black-and-white TVs to ChatGPT, VHS barcode pens to Alexa paranoia, we explore how different generations adapt (or don’t), whether AI really threatens jobs or humanity itself and why fatigue, scepticism, and “I just can’t be arsed” might be the most honest response of all.
Funny, sharp and unfiltered this is a real conversation about ageing, tech, fear, curiosity, and knowing when to lean in… and when to say no.
Key Takeaways
AI feels revolutionary, but so did the internet, mobile phones and Sky TV
Change fatigue is real, especially after decades of adapting
AI will replace easy work, not human judgment
Critical thinking will matter more than ever
AI poses risks around misinformation, fraud, and emotional manipulation
The biggest danger may not be Skynet, but the exploitation of vulnerable people
You don’t have to love AI to accept it’s here
Curiosity beats panic (and denial)
Timestamps
00:29 – Our attitudes to change, in particular to AI
01:25 – Kev admits he’s an AI Philistine, he agrees he should know more
02:32 – Growing up without phones, internet, or streaming and with black & white TVs
03:29 – VHS recorders, barcode pens & early tech miracles
04:28 – People said the internet “would never catch on”
05:14 – Home automation – The internet of things
06:52 – Change fatigue: “How many times can we relearn everything?”
07:50 – AI at work: productivity tools & human oversight
08:40 – Will AI take our jobs? The “easy work” argument
10:30 – AI hallucinations and critical thinking
11:24 – What the “big boys” are worried about
11:57 – Creativity, charts & AI-generated music, what is real
13:16 – AI avatars, grief & replacing dead loved ones
14:02 – Kev’s glamourous AI version of Jo
15:00 –Useful for the elderly
16:06 – Humanoid robots and avatars
16:54 – Fraud, FaceTime scams & the elderly
17:54 – Cold War fears vs AI panic
22:05 – The race to AGI & East vs West
24:26 – Medical AI, wearables & privacy dilemmas
27:23 – When tech fails the people it’s meant to help
28:35 – Jo’s real-life AI uses for podcasts & business
31:41 – Kev’s current use of AI and his commitment for 2026
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