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  • #379 A Story of Racism, Resilience & Resisting Systems of Denial with Sal Naseem
    In this episode, I sit down with Sal Naseem. A powerful voice on racism, resilience, and truth. From growing up as a Scottish Pakistani Muslim in Kilmarnock to challenging injustice at the highest levels of UK institutions, Sal’s story is raw and remarkable. His early life was marked by violence, survival, and a front-row seat to systemic failures from machete attacks at his family’s shop to witnessing police corruption first-hand. These experiences forged a deep understanding of empathy, moral courage, and the cost of speaking out. Now the author of True North, Sal brings insight, vulnerability, and fire to a conversation that doesn’t pull any punches.We talk about what real leadership looks like, why he walked away from a senior public role on principle, and how racism, power, and fear operate behind closed doors. We unpacks the myths of imposter syndrome, the dangers organisational ethical drift, bias, and the shifting Overton Window of what society accepts. This episode is about more than race or resilience, it’s about all of us. It’s a call to challenge the systems and beliefs we take for granted, and to ask: What do I believe? Where did that belief come from? And how do I treat the people who aren’t like me?Find Sal HEREFind his book HEREACCESS THE PODCAST LIBRARY & EVERY EPISODE, DEBRIEF & DOCUMENT CLICK HEREPODCAST GIFT - Get your FREE subscription to essential Firefighting publications HEREĀ A big thanks to our partners for supporting this episode.GORE-TEX Professional ClothingMSA The Safety CompanyIDEXFIRE & EVACUATION SERVICE LTDĀ HAIX Footwear - Get offical podcast discount on HAIX HEREXendurance - to hunt performance & endurance 20% off HERE with code ffp20Lyfe Linez -Ā  Get Functional Hydration FUEL for FIREFIGHTERS, Clean no sugarĀ  for daily hydration. 80% of people live dehydratedSupport the showSend us a textSupport the show***The views expressed in this episode are those of the individual speakers. Our partners are not responsible for the content of this episode and does not warrant its accuracy or completeness.*** Please support the podcast and its future by clicking HERE and joining our Patreon Crew
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  • #378 Leadership, Low Agency & Learned Helplessness in the UK Fire Service
    In this solo episode I explore a quiet but powerful undercurrent in the UK Fire and Rescue Service: low agency and learned helplessness. Speaking not from a podium but shoulder to shoulder with every member of the service - we confront the cultural forces that stifle voice, innovation, and change. Why do so many of us feel stuck, unheard, or disconnected from the power to make a difference?Ā We unpack the psychology behind this, challenge the systems we’ve inherited, and offer a hopeful, practical path forward — one rooted in agency, emotional safety, and everyday leadership. This isn’t about blame — it’s about responsibility, authenticity, and choosing to lead from wherever you are. If you believe the fire service can be more, and you’re ready to be part of that change, this episode is for you. Let’s lead better. Let’s build a culture that uplifts the people who serve within it.Ā ACCESS THE PODCAST LIBRARY & EVERY EPISODE, DEBRIEF & DOCUMENT CLICK HEREPODCAST GIFT - Get your FREE subscription to essential Firefighting publications HEREĀ A big thanks to our partners for supporting this episode.GORE-TEX Professional ClothingMSA The Safety CompanyIDEXFIRE & EVACUATION SERVICE LTDĀ HAIX Footwear - Get offical podcast discount on HAIX HEREXendurance - to hunt performance & endurance 20% off HERE with code ffp20Lyfe Linez -Ā  Get Functional Hydration FUEL for FIREFIGHTERS, Clean no sugarĀ  for daily hydration. 80% of people live dehydratedSupport the show***The views expressed in this episode are those of the individual speakers. Our partners are not responsible for the content of this episode and does not warrant its accuracy or completeness.***Please support the podcast and its future by clicking HERE and joining our Patreon CrewSend us a textSupport the show***The views expressed in this episode are those of the individual speakers. Our partners are not responsible for the content of this episode and does not warrant its accuracy or completeness.*** Please support the podcast and its future by clicking HERE and joining our Patreon Crew
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  • #377 Instructor Discussion Netherlands Smoke Cooling Experiments Ep1
    In this first episode from our trip to the Netherlands, I had the privilege of joining leading fire service professionals at the Nederlands Instituut Publieke Veiligheid (NIPV) to explore the latest in smoke cooling experiments. Building on the foundation of the ā€œSmoke Cooling and Nozzle Techniquesā€ report, this phase of research brought together international experts to challenge long-held assumptions, test techniques under controlled conditions, and refine the tactical understanding that underpins firefighter safety. What stood out was the scientific rigor and operational focus of the team, supported by NIPV’s world-class facility and welcoming hospitality.Recorded out on the training ground—complete with ambient sounds of fans and firegound operations—this episode captures real conversations with Peter, Nick, Justin, Edward, Pascal, and Rene. We dive into everything from short pulsing and flow rates to nozzle techniques, ventilation, decontamination, psychological assessments for team leaders, and how beliefs about firefighting tactics evolve. These discussions aim to turn cutting-edge research into practical insights for firefighters, instructors, and leaders worldwide. A special thanks to Enduro Protect and Barry Robertson, whose support made this trip possible and whose commitment to firefighter health echoes the spirit of this work. Stay tuned—this is research every firefighter should hear.ACCESS THE PODCAST LIBRARY & EVERY EPISODE, DEBRIEF & DOCUMENT CLICK HEREWATCH ON YOUTUBE HEREĀ A big thanks to our partners for supporting this episode.GORE-TEX Professional ClothingMSA The Safety CompanyIDEXFIRE & EVACUATION SERVICE LTDĀ HAIX Footwear - Get offical podcast discount on HAIX HEREXendurance - to hunt performance & endurance 20% off HERE with code ffp20Lyfe Linez -Ā  Get Functional Hydration FUEL for FIREFIGHTERS, Clean no sugarĀ  for daily hydration. 80% of people live dehydratedSupport the show***The views expressed in this episode are those of the individual speakers. Our partners are not responsible for the content of this episode and does not warrant its accuracy or completeness.***Please support the podcast and its future by clicking HERE and joining our Patreon CrewSend us a textSupport the show***The views expressed in this episode are those of the individual speakers. Our partners are not responsible for the content of this episode and does not warrant its accuracy or completeness.*** Please support the podcast and its future by clicking HERE and joining our Patreon Crew
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  • #376 Fighting Fire Fit with Phill Matthews
    Phill Matthews is a former wholetime firefighter turned online coach, specializing in helping serving and aspiring firefighters enhance their fitness and performance. Through his platform, Fighting Fire Fit, he has assisted hundreds in achieving their health and career goals. After finishing active duty, Phill is now channelling his experience and passion fulltime into coaching serving and aspiring firefighters helping them meet the demands of the job and perform at their best when it matters most.Find Phill HERE:Instagram: @fightingfirefitTikTok: @fightingfirefitFacebook: Fighting Fire Fit(Facebook)ACCESS THE PODCAST LIBRARY & EVERY EPISODE, DEBRIEF & DOCUMENT CLICK HEREPODCAST GIFT - Get your FREE subscription to essential Firefighting publications HEREĀ A big thanks to our partners for supporting this episode.GORE-TEX Professional ClothingMSA The Safety CompanyIDEXFIRE & EVACUATION SERVICE LTDĀ HAIX Footwear - Get offical podcast discount on HAIX HEREXendurance - to hunt performance & endurance 20% off HERE with code ffp20Lyfe Linez -Ā  Get Functional Hydration FUEL for FIREFIGHTERS, Clean no sugarĀ  for daily hydration. 80% of people live dehydratedSupport the show***The views expressed in this episode are those of the individual speakers. Our partners are not responsible for the content of this episode and does not warrant its accuracy or completeness.***Please support the podcast and its future by clicking HERE and joining our Patreon CrewSend us a textSupport the show***The views expressed in this episode are those of the individual speakers. Our partners are not responsible for the content of this episode and does not warrant its accuracy or completeness.*** Please support the podcast and its future by clicking HERE and joining our Patreon Crew
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  • #375 Hazmat, Detection & The Hidden Threats we face with Dr Mark Norman
    Today were talking hazardous materials, detection technology, and how it’s reshaping our work in the fire and rescue services.Joining me is Dr. Mark L. Norman, a Senior Field Applications Scientist at 908 Devices and a leading subject matter expert in optical detection technologies. With over 20 years of experience in hazmat detection systems for emergency response, Mark brings both scientific expertise and real-world insight. He holds a Ph.D. in Analytical Chemistry from UNC-Chapel Hill, has authored peer-reviewed publications — including a 2003 collaboration with NASA climatologists — and is an inventor on two patents related to hazardous gas and vapor identification.In our conversation, we talk about the evolution of detection technology — from lab-based instruments to field-deployable units — and the shift that happened post-9/11 when incidents like the anthrax letters drove new levels of investment and innovation. We also unpack common hazmat misconceptions, the difference between gases and vapors, acute vs chronic exposures, and why understanding things like molecular weight and vapor density can literally save lives at the fireground.My hope is this gives you a clearer understanding of how to approach hazmat incidents more confidently, why good detection equipment matters, and how new threats like EV battery fires and fentanyl contamination are pushing the sector to adapt fast.So If you're a firefighter, incident commander, hazmat operator, or someone who just wants to deepen their operational awareness, this episode is packed with practical, relevant insight that will help you do the job better and safer.Connect with Dr. Mark Norman HEREACCESS THE PODCAST LIBRARY & EVERY EPISODE, DEBRIEF & DOCUMENT CLICK HEREPODCAST GIFT - Get your FREE subscription to essential Firefighting publications HEREĀ A big thanks to our partners for supporting this episode.GORE-TEX Professional ClothingMSA The Safety CompanyIDEXFIRE & EVACUATION SERVICE LTDĀ HAIX Footwear - Get offical podcast discount on HAIX HEREXendurance - to hunt performance & endurance 20% off HERE with code ffp20Lyfe Linez -Ā  Get Functional Hydration FUEL for FIREFIGHTERS, Clean no sugarĀ  for daily hydration. 80% of people live dehydratedSend us a textSupport the show***The views expressed in this episode are those of the individual speakers. Our partners are not responsible for the content of this episode and does not warrant its accuracy or completeness.*** Please support the podcast and its future by clicking HERE and joining our Patreon Crew
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The Firefighters Podcast is a global podcast seeking to develop, inspire, connect, motivate, represent & celebrate the world of our emergency services operators through a series of wide-ranging conversations celebrating those within our emergency services family and encouraging the support of this incredible group of people.Operational UK firefighter Pete Wakefield speaks with individuals from all walks of life who share a connection with, can add value to, or can develop those who choose this life path.Our driving purpose is to create a legacy resource for the current and future generations of firefighters & first responders
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