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Beyond the numbers: Articulating the true value of financial advice

Scott Stevens
Beyond the numbers: Articulating the true value of financial advice
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  • “What Would Make This a Valuable Use of Your Time?”
    RecoursesModen‘Ace Your Annual Review’ - Downloadable guideHumansing money - fortnightly newsletter'Finesse your first meeting' - Mentoring programmeCommunicate for Impact Course - Writing cohort for advisersThe Kinder Reminder fortnightly newsletterWhat if the biggest factor in your success as a financial adviser isn’t your technical expertise, but how well you listen? In this episode, I sit down with Melissa Kidd, communications expert, coach, and founder of Motem, to explore the overlooked skill at the heart of powerful advice: meaningful conversation.With a background in psychology, coaching, and NLP, Melissa shares practical tools to help advisers shift from presenting information to creating impact - by listening deeply, asking better questions, and understanding the emotional side of money. From finessing the first meeting to running better annual reviews, Melissa explains why emotions run high when talking about money, and how advisers can create safety, connection, and clarity by mastering the art of listening and asking the right questions. We explore how to dissolve jargon, build trust faster, and use proactive communication to turn avoiders into advocates.Top 8 TakeawaysOpen Strong: Begin every meeting by asking, “What would make this a valuable use of your time?” - a powerful question that invites co-creation and sets the tone for trust.The First Meeting Is Critical: Emotions run high, and clients often feel a power imbalance. Your job isn’t to impress - it’s to settle minds, listen deeply, and humanise the conversation.Clients Define Value: Advisers often default to showcasing technical skill. But real value is defined by the client - feeling understood, making smart decisions, and knowing what ‘enough’ looks like.Silence Isn’t Awkward, It’s Powerful: Many advisers fear silence. But space invites deeper thinking and reflection. Listen to understand, not to respond.Ask 'What' Not 'Why': “What led you to come and see an adviser like me today?” invites insight without defensiveness. ‘Why’ can feel intrusive.Scale for Confidence: Use a simple 1–10 scale to ask, “How confident are you feeling about your financial situation?” Revisit over time to track emotional and financial progress.Reframe Annual Reviews: Shift from “annual review” to “progress planning meeting” - clients are more likely to attend when it feels forward-focused and purposeful.Don’t Sell, Start a Conversation: When networking, your goal isn’t to close. It’s to connect. Focus on being memorable, relatable, and curious. The real opportunities often come later, over coffee - not in the room. Great PhrasesThe first meeting is all about creating safety, not showcasing expertiseIt’s not about the facts and figures. It’s about uncovering motivations and needs.If they only come to you for performance, they’ll leave you for performance.Money is emotional. If we ignore that, we miss the heart of the conversation. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • The Pracademic’s Playbook: Emotional Intelligence for Modern Advisers
    In this episode, Scott speaks with James Woodfall - a previous SJP Partner, coach, and co-author of The Heart of Finance - about the transformational role of emotional intelligence in financial advice. James draws from his experience as a former SJP Partner and researcher (a Pracademic!) to explain how advisers can better connect with clients, improve outcomes, and future-proof their role in a world increasingly shaped by AI. The conversation ranges from defining emotional intelligence and its practical components, to tailoring communication styles, managing difficult conversations, and overcoming compassion fatigue. You’ll walk away with science-backed tools, real-life examples, and tactical strategies to strengthen client relationships and enhance your personal performance. Top 10 TakeawaysClients Value Time & Trust, Not Just Numbers: Clients seek advice because they lack time or knowledge. Value lies in saving them from mistakes - not just in performance.EQ Is a High-Performance Skill: Emotional intelligence strongly correlates with increased sales, retention, and referrals. It's not soft. It's strategic.EQ Can and Should be Measured: Use self-reporting, ability-based, or scenario-based tools. What gets measured improves.AI Can Simulate Empathy But Can’t Feel It: Artificial empathy mimics emotion, but only humans offer genuine understanding. Your edge is emotional connection.Basic Emotions Are Predictable. Learn Them: Emotions like fear, anger, and sadness have clear triggers and behaviours. Understanding them helps you manage client reactions and build trust.Trust Grows When You Notice Feelings: Ignoring emotions breaks rapport. Attunement—"I sense something’s off, shall we pause?" - strengthens relationships.Mirror, Don’t Flatten, Emotions: During tough conversations, match emotional intensity at 80%. It shows empathy and helps clients feel heard.Tailor Your Language to How Clients Think: Segment clients by thinking style: Logical thinkers want data; emotional thinkers want to feel safe. Their language gives them away.Self-Reflection Is a Superpower: Build 10 minutes post-meeting to ask: What went well? What could I improve? What actions will I take? Continuous improvement starts here.Fee Resistance Is an Emotional Cue: Be assertive and empathic. “Expensive compared to what?” reframes the conversation around value, not cost. Empathise, but don’t apologise. Great Phrases“When we pay careful attention to the emotions of others, trust grows.”“AI cannot replicate the human connection.”“It’s not just about tailoring advice -it’s about tailoring the conversation.”“Pay attention to people’s words to understand if they are more logical or more emotional thinkers.”“Segment clients by communication needs.”“People like people who are like themselves.”“Compassion fatigue can affect your performance.”“Be assertive and stand your ground in fee discussions.”Resources James's websiteTraining courses Heart of Finance bookfree digital copyJames LinkedIn Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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About Beyond the numbers: Articulating the true value of financial advice

In a world where the rising cost of living meets relentless pressure on fees, financial advisers are facing a challenge like never before. People are re-evaluating every pound spent, looking harder at where true value lies. Yet, for those seeking security, stability, and growth in their financial lives, the right advice has never been more essential. That’s why we're launching this series. A podcast series designed for advisers to help them better articulate their value. This series isn’t just about storytelling; it’s about building a toolkit. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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