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Chris Schrader: Turning a Modest Charity into an 8-Figure Marathon for Change – Part Two
Part Two.
A simple idea to honor a friend sparked something extraordinary. Today, the 24 Hour Race stands as the largest student-run effort to fight human trafficking. In this episode, Chris Schrader, the founder and executive chairman, reflects on the journey from a single event to a global mission, with students worldwide raising $20 million for this critical cause.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From the Wilderness to the Workplace: Business Team Building 401
“Business is a watered-down version of an expedition, and an expedition is a hyperbolic version of business. The success of both depends on understanding team dynamics—bridging the gap between the strongest and weakest players.”
“Your performance isn’t defined by your best players; it’s defined by your weakest. In the expedition world, you have two choices—get rid of your weakest link or rein in your top performers.”
Don’t Be the Adventure Tour Guide—Leadership Takes Tough Calls
“You’re not an adventure tour guide. You’re there to achieve a specific goal, and sometimes that means making tough calls against your team’s individual interests to keep the whole expedition on track.”
Nietzsche, Space Dreams, and Paying the Bills
“Nietzsche teaches us to live life with vitality, to focus on what brings joy in the moment. But, let’s be honest—sometimes that joy includes paying the electricity bill for your sous vide obsession.”
It’s Not All About Musk and Zuckerberg: Real Impact Starts Closer to Home
“The hardest thing isn’t creating global impact like Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg—it’s investing in the people around you and making a meaningful difference in their lives.”
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Chris Schrader: Turning a Modest Charity into an 8-Figure Marathon for Change – Part One
Part One.
A simple idea to honor a friend sparked something extraordinary. Today, the 24 Hour Race stands as the largest student-run effort to fight human trafficking. In this episode, Chris Schrader, the founder and executive chairman, reflects on the journey from a single event to a global mission, with students worldwide raising $20 million for this critical cause.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
How a Teenage Charity Event Turned into a Global Phenomenon Fighting Human Trafficking
“On a typically cold, rainy English day, I suggested to my friends, half-serious, ‘Why don’t we walk across England?’… Sure enough, six months later, we found ourselves walking across England.”
“What started as a one-off 24-hour race in 2010 is now the largest student movement fighting slavery in the world, with events in 25 cities and HK$150 million (US$20 million) raised.”
Why Young People Shouldn’t Just Write Checks: Teaching the Fiduciary Side of Charity
“We want students to view themselves as leaders with the fiduciary responsibility of any charity executive—interviewing project stakeholders to see if the money is really being put to good use.”
Charity Is a Marketplace, Not a Moral Obligation
“Our audience doesn’t need to care about human trafficking to join the event. If they come just for the music festival or because it’s a big sleepover, that’s fine. Our job is to win them over positively.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Chris Schrader
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From Dollars to Smiles: Michael Sakraida’s Playbook for Wealth and Joy – Part Two
Part Two.
Michael Sakraida, the Money Philosopher and author of Money, Balance and Joy: Improving Your Life Story, continues to unravel the art of balancing wealth and happiness. Spoiler: wealth is about much more than just money.
In this episode, Michael introduces his three-part happiness equation—monetary wealth, time wealth, and social wealth—and how aligning them leads to a fulfilling life. He calls out Wall Street’s blind spots, takes on risk tolerance myths, and pokes fun at the “Financial Media Smut Club” for ignoring the emotional side of money.
Ready to break free from the usual money clichés? Tune in for bold insights, a touch of humor, and a fresh perspective on what financial success really looks like.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Financial Independence: More Than Just a Paycheck—It’s About Legacy
“True financial independence isn’t about working for money; it’s about working for joy. And when you’re gone, it’s the legacy—both financial and non-financial—that really counts.”
When ‘Aggressive’ Turns ‘Anxious’: The Flawed World of Risk Tolerance Tests
“Advisors tick the ‘aggressive’ box, but when the market drops, those same clients can flip out. The problem? Risk tolerance tests don’t dig into the emotional reality behind investing. They aren’t built to handle the emotional rollercoaster of real-life investing.”
Financial Media Smut Club: Why Most Advice Misses the Mark
“Too many financial articles focus on clickbait rather than offering real, actionable insights. The problem? Writers often don’t understand what they’re talking about.”
The Problem with Financial Influencers: Why They Should Be Regulated or Shut Down
“If financial advisors need compliance approval for every email, why do these so-called financial influencers get a free pass to spread advice with zero oversight?”
Financial Advisors: If You’re Not Asking These Three Questions, You’re Doing It Wrong
“Before any numbers come into play, financial advisors should be addressing the emotions tied to wealth: how you got it, what you want to do with it, and your past experiences with Wall Street.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Michael Sakraida
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From Dollars to Smiles: Michael Sakraida’s Playbook for Wealth and Joy – Part One
Part One.
Michael Sakraida, the mind behind Money, Balance and Joy: Improving Your Life Story, brings a fresh, philosophical perspective to the age-old debate: Can money buy happiness?
Spoiler: It’s not about piling up cash.
Michael reveals his three-part happiness equation—monetary wealth, time wealth, and social wealth—and why achieving balance between them is crucial.
With wit and insight, he critiques Wall Street, risk tolerance surveys, and what he calls the “Financial Media Smut Club” for missing the emotional realities of personal finance. He’s not afraid to challenge conventional wisdom, offering a relatable, no-nonsense approach to understanding money and its role in your life.
For anyone seeking clarity amidst the noise of financial advice, this episode will make you rethink how you define wealth.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Zen and the Art of Smart Change: Why You Shouldn’t Waste Emotional Energy
“Think of change like triage. Some things are worth saving; others, not so much. It’s about focusing your energy on the changes that actually count.”
The Happiness Equation: Why Money Alone Isn’t Enough
"Money buys happiness when it’s part of a three-part ecosystem—monetary wealth, time wealth, and social joy. Balance the three, and you’ve got the real happiness equation."
Feeling Alone in the Crowd: Why Money Isn’t the Only Problem
“Inflation, Wall Street, and the financial media don’t get it—people feel isolated and misunderstood. It’s not just about cash; it’s about finding control and direction when everything feels chaotic.”
Wall Street’s Blind Spot: The Emotional Toll of Inflation
“While Wall Street and politicians stay comfortable, most people struggle, feeling alone and powerless. The key isn’t just money; it’s reclaiming control in a system that’s stacked against you.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Michael Sakraida
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Career Moves That Pay: John Gates on Unlocking Your True Salary Potential
John Gates knows how to help you make the most of your compensation package, especially during career transitions.
When preparing for this interview, I flipped through his book, ACT YOUR WAGE, and it took me back to my business school days studying negotiation. The key takeaway? Negotiations are about focusing on multiple elements, not just one number.
But here’s the twist—unlike business negotiations, salary discussions are filled with emotions, fear, and anxiety. How can you move past those emotions, shift your mindset, and maximize your return during a career move? John shares the answers.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Coast-to-Coast Hustle: The Ups and Downs of Chasing the Corporate Dream
“During that process of chasing the Fortune 500 career and climbing that ladder, I moved across the country many times. I was laid off several times. I know how terrifying it is to be laid off or separated from a company that once loved you, but now no longer needs you."
From Prosecutor to Defense Attorney: Why Switching Sides Matters
“I do view myself as a former prosecutor who became a defense attorney. I think the best defense attorneys are people who used to be prosecutors because they understand the tactics and strategy and what the other prosecutor is trying to achieve.”
The Silver Bullet Effect: Practical Steps for Negotiation Success
“I start teaching them how to have safe conversations about pay almost immediately. So, very experimentally, I will teach them and drill them and rehearse with them first.”
Salary Negotiation 101: Gladiators Need Not Apply!
“Know your worth and demand your worth. People say, figure out what you’re worth, insist upon that… When I hear that, what I see is high risk. It’s confrontational. It makes it seem like you’re going to be this gladiator… This sort of ultimatum strategy of ‘take it or leave it’ is problematic.”
6 Rules For Successful Salary Negotiation:
1.Do not put “open” or “negotiable” in the salary requirement field — Always put a number.
2.Reframe your salary number into a range during the phone screen — It’s important to shift into a range rather than sticking to a fixed number.
3.Shift the conversation from salary to total compensation — This includes understanding incentives and bonuses beyond the base salary.
4.Use AI tools like ChatGPT to prepare for interviews — This helps generate potential questions and practice responses.
5.Use interview time to sell yourself instead of satisfying curiosity — Focus on addressing their pain points and demonstrating your value.
6.Avoid moving the goalposts during negotiation — Present everything you want in one batch rather than one at a time to prevent putting your offer at risk.
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: John Gates
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Welcome to the world of human intelligence. Chief Change Officer is a Global Top 3% podcast on Listen Notes, ranked #1 in Careers and Top 30 in Business in the US on Apple Podcasts, and Global Top 10 in Careers in over 20 countries across America, Europe, and Asia Pacific
At Chief Change Officer, we harness change as a superpower. This power is fuelled by role models who candidly and generously share their human intelligence. This isn’t digitised knowledge or AI-generated advice; it’s real, time-tested, experience-driven intelligence that blends logic and love, art and science.
This show marks the 18th career transition for the host Vince Chan. Over the course of 17 prior transitions, countless role models have guided and inspired me. At critical junctions, no matter how lost or despaired I felt, I emerged stronger, better, and happier. Now, I’m here to pass that superpower on to you, uniting global voices to become your role models for career and life transformation.
If you’re a growth progressive, a black horse, someone who doesn’t fit the conventional mold and is determined to create your own life and career playbook—this is for you. Our mission is to help you become wiser in action, clearer in thought, and more ambitious in pursuing the change you seek. If this resonates, then you are a Chief Change Officer.
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