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#221 Bruce Flatt on Value, Discipline, and Durability
Brookfield CEO Bruce Flatt reveals the investment philosophy behind building one of the world's largest alternative asset managers with over a trillion dollars under management.
At the core of Brookfield's strategy is a disciplined focus on downside protection that has delivered 19% annualized returns over 30 years. Flatt identifies three major trends driving their investments: digitalization (including AI infrastructure), global energy transition, and reindustrialization as supply chains shift. The conversation explores Brookfield's approach to risk management, their expansion into insurance, and their meritocratic culture. When Shane presses for clarity on Brookfield's complex corporate structure, Flatt provides rare insights into how the organization's design creates both operational flexibility and investment opportunities.
What separates Brookfield from competitors? Patient capital: the discipline to wait for extraordinary opportunities and the financial strength to act when others can't.
If you want to understand how the smartest capital allocators think and what it takes to build something enduring, this episode is essential listening.
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(00:02:56) Changes in Investing Over the Past 25 Years
(00:04:51) How Private Enterprise Has Built Our Tech Infrastructure
(00:07:08) Implications and Opportunities of Passive Investing
(00:09:08) Advantages of Private Companies
(00:12:36) Three Investment Themes
(00:15:11) Winners in Digitalization
(00:16:45) Application of Artificial Intelligence in Businesses
(00:21:44) Transition to Low-Carbon Energy
(00:25:24) Future of Data Centers
(00:27:32) De-globalization of Industry
(00:29:59) Implications of Manufacturing Repatriation
(00:31:11) Long-term Prospects for America
(00:36:20) Approach to Risk and Debt
(00:37:48) Impact of Interest Rates
(00:40:47) Managing Market Dislocations
(00:42:30) Long-term Investing Strategy
(00:45:06) History and Future of Brookfield
(00:47:55) Exploration of Private Markets and Insurance
(00:48:48) Investment Decision Process
(00:55:18) Understanding Brookfield's Structure
(00:59:40) Positioning of Brookfield's Businesses
(01:00:21) Talent and People Management at Brookfield
(01:02:58) Focus on Downside Protection
(01:05:03) Accountability in Investment Decisions
(01:06:32) Understanding Investment Cycles
(01:08:14) Learning and Training in the Organization
(01:09:06) Postmortem Analysis of Investments
(01:11:14) Consideration of Geopolitical Risks
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#220 Outliers: James Dyson — Against the Odds
How do you turn 5,127 failures into a multi-billion-dollar empire? James Dyson turned dust into possibility, failure into discovery, and frustration into revolution.
Dyson didn’t just build a better vacuum; he redefined a whole industry. Facing thousands of failed prototypes, crushing financial setbacks, and a dismissive industry that insisted a superior vacuum was impossible, Dyson transformed doubt into fuel that created an empire he still owns and operates today.
Dyson’s genius stretched far beyond engineering. He was a contrarian thinker whose natural state was to defy the experts. From reinventing hand dryers to fans and hairdryers, Dyson repeatedly turned mundane frustrations into game-changing products. His relentless curiosity and willingness to fail publicly set new standards for innovation. When competitors mocked him, he stayed focused. When patents were threatened, he defended fiercely. Dyson's story is one of unwavering persistence, unorthodox creativity, and the courage to trust his own instincts—even when everyone else doubted.
This is the story of James Dyson. Learn how one decision can change everything for a whole family.
This episode is for informational purposes only and is based on Against the Odds: An Autobiography by James Dyson. Quotes from Against the Odds and James Dyson’s Invention: A Life
(02:35) Prologue: The Kitchen Floor Experiment
PART 1 - EARLY SPARKS OF TENACITY
(05:05) A Childhood of Resilience and Determination
(08:19) Gresham’s School
(11:25) From Art to Engineering: A Defiance of Convention
(14:58) A Mentor: Jeremy Fry
(17:37) Just Build It
(19:23) The Sea Truck
(22:16) Lessons From The Egyptians
(24:16) Misfit Mentality
PART 2: FIRST INVENTIONS AND HARD LESSONS
(26:48) Reinventing The Wheel(barrow)
(28:54) Popular Not Profitable
(30:56) Leaving Ballbarrow with Nothing
(34:09) History of the Vaccuum
(36:23) Cyclone in a Sawmill
(39:17) 5,127 Prototypes
(41:57) Industry Rejection
(44:14) Building the Business
PART 3: BUILDING AN EMPIRE
(48:15) Passion Over Profit
(50:04) Beyond Vacuums
(53:08) R&D Culture & Iterative Design
(55:44) Patent Wars & Legal Battles
(57:49) Value of Keeping Ownership
(59:59) Recap of Dyson’s Journey
(01:02:55) SHANE’S REFLECTIONS
Key lessons from James Dyson: fs.blog/knowledge-project-podcast/outliers-james-dyson
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#219 Logan Ury: The Dating Myths You Need to Stop Believing
Most people date the wrong way. They chase the spark, mistake attraction for compatibility, and expect their partners to read their minds. Then they wonder why relationships don’t last. Logan Ury thinks about dating differently. As the Director of Relationship Science at Hinge, she’s spent years studying what actually makes relationships work. Her findings will change the way you think about attraction, communication, and commitment. In this conversation, Logan reveals why the spark is overrated, how to optimize your dating profile, and the one thing (actually, 8) you must do after every first date. We break down attachment theory, orbiting, polyamory, and having hard conversations in a healthy way. We get answers to questions like: "what’s an appropriate age gap?" and "what to say if you’re not interested after a date?" Plus, Logan shares how she made the decision to be with her husband and the importance of “other significant others.”
If you want to stop wasting time on the wrong people and start building something real, this episode is for you.
(2:49) First Dates and the Slow Burn
(8:07) The Post-Date 8
(14:30) Dating Like a Scientist
(15:50) The Height thing...
(18:56) The Spark vs Lust
(26:35) Fear of Rejection
(29:01) Understanding Attachment Theory
(39:20) Navigating Online Dating
(41:36) Effective Communication in Dating
(51:58) Texting Etiquette
(01:05:33) Dealing with Rejection
(01:08:44) Polyamory
(01:13:32) Orbiting
(01:30:45) Logan's Story of Meeting Her Husband
(01:37:12) Navigating Crucial Decision Points in Relationships
(01:41:48) Having Difficult Conversations in Relationships
(01:50:15) Other Significant Others
(01:59:05) Breaking Up Respectfully
(02:02:08) Tips for Creating Dating Profiles
Logan Ury is a behavioral scientist, dating coach, and the Director of Relationship Science at Hinge. She’s the bestselling author of How Not to Die Alone.
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#218 Outliers: Estée Lauder — A Success Story
Most people hear "Estée Lauder" and think of cosmetics—lipstick, perfume, face cream. But the real story isn’t just about makeup—it’s about a woman being an unstoppable force.
Estée Lauder didn’t just build a beauty brand; she rewrote the rules of an industry. She turned rejection into fuel, defied industry gatekeepers, and transformed a homemade face cream into a multi-billion-dollar global powerhouse.
When department stores refused to stock her products, she created a demand they couldn’t ignore. When experts said women wouldn’t spend $115 on face cream, she proved them wrong. When competitors copied her formulas, she didn’t fight them—she outmaneuvered them. Her real genius wasn’t in chemistry, but in understanding human psychology, persistence, and the power of storytelling.
This is the story of Estée Lauder.
Make sure to stick around at the end for my reflections and thoughts.
(05:26) Chapter 1 - The Early Years
(08:17) Chapter 2: From Kitchen to Department Stores: The Beauty Revolution
(09:04) First Break: House of Ash Blondes
(11:58) Married
(13:35) Chapter 3: Marketing Genius and Brand Building: The Perfect Moment
(15:20) The Power of a Gift
(16:51) Tell-A-Woman
(19:04) Department Store Breakthrough
(21:03) Chapter 4: The Expansion Era: The Key to Success
(26:09) Tell-Every-Woman
(28:42) Beyond Department Stores
(34:58) Chapter 5: Youth Dew
(36:37) Creating a New Category
(39:35) Success Breeds Competition
(41:16) Knowing what not to do
(44:06) Chapter 6: Beyond America: London Calling
(45:53) A Lesson in Brand Building
(47:43) The French Accident
(48:38) The Art of Adaptation
(49:49) Chapter 7: New Categories: Growing the Whole Pie
(52:08) The Clinique Revolution
(53:28) A New Kind of Marketing
(56:13) Chapter 8: The Lauder Philosophy: Business as Obsession
(56:25) Core Principles
(58:55) The Human Touch
(01:00:38) SHANE’S REFLECTIONS
This episode is for informational purposes only and is based on Estée Lauder’s incredible 1985 autobiography Estée: A Success Story.
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#217 Josh Wolfe: Human Advantage in the World of AI
While Silicon Valley chases unicorns, Josh Wolfe hunts for something far more elusive: scientific breakthroughs that could change civilization. As co-founder and managing partner of Lux Capital, he's looking for the kind of science that turns impossible into inevitable. Josh doesn’t just invest in the future—he sees it coming before almost anyone else.
In this conversation, we explore:
The rapid evolution of AI and potential bottlenecks slowing its growth
The geopolitical battle for technological dominance and rise of sovereign AI models
How advances in automation, robotics, and defence are shifting global power dynamics
Josh's unfiltered thoughts on Tesla and Elon Musk
AI's revolution of medical research
Parenting in a tech-dominated world
How AI is forcing us to rethink creativity, intellectual property, and human intelligence itself
Why the greatest risk isn't AI itself—but our ability to separate truth from noise
Despite the challenges ahead, Josh remains profoundly optimistic about human potential. He believes technology isn't replacing what makes us human—it's amplifying it. This episode will challenge how you think about innovation, risk, and the forces shaping our future. If you want to stay ahead of the curve, you can't afford to miss it.
Josh Wolfe co-founded Lux Capital to support scientists and entrepreneurs who pursue counter-conventional solutions to the most vexing puzzles of our time. He previously worked in investment banking at Salomon Smith Barney and in capital markets at Merrill Lynch. Josh is a columnist with Forbes and Editor for the Forbes/Wolfe Emerging Tech Report.
(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:02:46) Current Obsessions
(00:05:11) AI and its Limitations
(00:10:58) Memory Players in AI
(00:13:27) Human Intelligence as a Limiting Factor
(00:15:38) Disruption in Elite Professions
(00:17:15) AI and Blue-Collar Jobs
(00:18:29) Implications of AI in Coding
(00:19:40) AI and Company Margins
(00:25:48) AI in Pharma
(00:26:44) AI in Entertainment
(00:28:04) AI in Scientific Research
(00:33:31) AI in Patent Creation
(00:34:49) AI in Company Creation
(00:35:33) Discussion on Tesla and Elon Musk
(00:40:54) AI in Investment Decisions
(00:42:20) AI in Analyzing Business Fundamentals
(00:45:27) AI, Privacy, and Information Gods
(00:53:04) AI and Art
(00:56:43) AI and Human Connection
(00:58:22) AI, Aging, and Memory
(01:00:46) The Impact of Remote Work on Social Dynamics
(01:03:18) The Role of Community and Belonging
(01:05:44) The Pursuit of Longevity
(01:11:58) The Importance of Family and Purpose
(01:14:18) Information Processing and Workflow
(01:26:03) Investment in Military Technology
(01:28:09) Global Conflict and Military Deterrence
(01:31:28) Information Warfare
(01:32:32) Infiltration and Weaponization of Systems
(01:37:06) Infrastructure Maintenance and Growth
(01:38:27) DOGE Initiative
(01:40:09) Attracting Capital and Global Competitiveness
(01:43:16) Attracting Talent and Immigration
(01:45:42) Designing a System from Scratch
(01:47:30) AI and Intellectual Property
(01:51:56) The Fear of AI
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