The Pomp Podcast

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down Chamath’s claim that bitcoin is going to zero, the real quantum computing risk, the historic hedge fund unwind, and why AI is now smarter than all of us. We also discuss using AI as a life coach, genetically modified war dogs, and why Eli Lilly could become the biggest company in America.
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0:00 - Intro
1:01 - Chamath says bitcoin is going to zero (is quantum a real threat?)
10:55 - Marc Andreessen on why people over 35 fear new technology
14:30 - The historic hedge fund unwind & what’s driving the AI sell-off
20:03 - AI is now smarter than you (using Grok to sell real estate)
23:57 - Top law schools are banning AI & what it means for your kids
28:48 - Active vs passive AI usage & running a company on AI agents
34:06 - How to use AI as a weekly life coach
39:53 - Building shared AI memory
43:28 - Warp Sciences, Palmer Luckey & genetically modified war dogs
46:21 - Why Eli Lilly will become the biggest company in America

Dan Ives is a partner at Yorkville Ives and one of Wall Street’s most-followed tech analysts. In this conversation, we break down what he saw on the ground in Korea and why he thinks the AI bears are wrong. We also discuss the potential Tesla and SpaceX merger, CoreWeave and AI debt fears, the midterms, interest rates, and where the stock market goes from here.
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0:00 - Intro
1:08 - Report from Korea & AI chip demand
4:51 - Market sell-off & what the AI bears get right
9:25 - Why Wall Street is underestimating AI growth
15:06 - Midterms & data centers 
16:46 - Rate hikes, CoreWeave & Oracle debt
19:00 - What could slow AI demand?
20:53 - Tesla & SpaceX merger
33:06 - How investors are playing the merger
35:52 - Market concentration, earnings & the bear narratives
41:34 - AI agents & the future of investing
45:22 - Political risk & a message to the bears

Moez Kassam is the co-founder and CEO of Anson Funds, one of Canada’s top-performing hedge funds. In this conversation, we break down how he trades hype and momentum, why he went from bitcoin deals to bitcoin believer, and the lessons from putting $1 billion into bitcoin treasury companies. We also discuss the AI trade, Korea’s memory boom, long activism, prediction markets, and SPACs.
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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!
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0:00 - Intro
1:11 - Chasing hype, momentum & dealmaking
6:34 - Bitcoin: from deals to believer
9:02 - Bitcoin treasury companies & Strive’s preferred
15:40 - AI hype & sky-high valuations
17:53 - Private AI deals, tokenized stocks & 24/7 trading
21:23 - Trading against ChatGPT
24:50 - Finding your edge (SpaceX vs small caps)
28:46 - Korea, memory stocks & record put buying
34:27 - Short selling vs long activism
42:35 - Why Moderna could fall
45:16 - Prediction markets & social media sentiment
51:44 - Space & SPACs
54:56 - Canada, trade wars & funding Olympians

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down why hedge funds are blowing up, the lessons from LTCM, and how tokenization could reshape the entire industry. We also discuss why bitcoin is holding strong, why CPI doesn’t matter anymore, whether Anthropic’s growth is slowing, and Elon’s flying car.
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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!
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Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Take out a Figure Crypto-Backed Loan, allowing you to borrow against your BTC, ETH, or SOL with 12-month terms, 8.91% interest rates, and no prepayment penalties. Or check out Democratized Prime (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp) and earn ~8.5% APY on real world assets. Unlock your crypto’s potential today at Figure! https://figuremarkets.co/pomp Figure Lending LLC dba Figure (NMLS 1717824). Loans subject to approval. Crypto collateral may be liquidated. Terms apply - see full disclosures at https://figure.com/disclosures/
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This episode is brought to you by Investor Health — clinician-prescribed protocols for weight, metabolism, energy, and longevity, delivered to your door in 48–72 hours. No office visits, no referrals. Plans start at $149/mo. Learn more at http://www.InvestorHealth.com/pomp. Investor Health is a telehealth platform, not a medical provider. Compounded medications are not FDA-approved. Individual results may vary and treatment requires evaluation by a licensed provider.
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0:00 - Intro
1:12 - What LTCM teaches us about today’s market
14:10 - Tokenization & the death of hedge funds
17:40 - Why bitcoin is holding strong
23:33 - AI is offense, bitcoin is defense
26:47 - When bitcoin’s next rally happens
29:38 - Why CPI doesn’t matter anymore
35:59 - Debate: is Anthropic’s growth slowing?
54:02 - Elon’s flying car & a Tesla SpaceX merger
57:26 - AI capital needs & market liquidity

Eric Jackson is the founder of EMJ Capital and the investor behind the high-profile Carvana and Opendoor calls. This was recorded live at the Silvia Investor Summit in New York. In this conversation, we break down the rise of the retail investor, how he uses AI in his research, and what he saw inside Hut 8’s massive AI data center campus. We also discuss his AI-powered bitcoin model, when to sell, and using AI to beat prediction markets.
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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!
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Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/pomp
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0:00 - Intro
0:25 - Why public companies now care about retail investors
3:55 - How Eric uses AI for investment research
6:21 - Inside Hut 8’s massive AI data center build
15:57 - Building conviction on misunderstood stocks
18:10 - Eric’s daily routine & the Drake videos
21:48 - Portfolio construction, small caps & crypto
24:18 - How to know when to sell
25:35 - AI bitcoin model: bull, or bear market?
28:31 - Beating prediction markets with AI