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  • Gold vs Bitcoin: The Ultimate 2025 Debasement Trade
    Peter Schiff is an American economist, stockbroker, author, the CEO & Chief Global Strategist of Euro Pacific Capital, and the Founder of SchiffGold. In this conversation we discuss why gold & silver are hitting record highs, interest rates, how to improve economic policies, what Peter would do if he was President, and a bet on whether gold or bitcoin will end up having a better 2025? ======================Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠======================Bitlayer is taking Bitcoin beyond just a store of value. For the first time, you can put your Bitcoin to work, earning yield while staying true to its core principles of security and decentralization. Bitlayer is making Bitcoin DeFi a reality. Learn more at https://x.com/BitlayerLabs======================Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers, with more than $15 billion in client assets across an expanding suite of investment solutions—including the world’s largest crypto index fund—plus products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. In addition to managing assets, Bitwise helps investors stay informed about the fast-moving crypto market. Every week, CIO Matt Hougan breaks down what’s happening in crypto in five minutes or less. Read the latest at ⁠https://experts.bitwiseinvestments.com/cio-memos⁠. Certain Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit ⁠https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures⁠ to learn more.======================Timestamps: 0:54 - Intro1:21 - Why gold and silver are hitting record highs5:07 - How to think about the gold allocation in your portfolio9:55 - Evaluating why China is buying so much gold12:19 - Why the “Debasement Trade” is now happening15:26 - Interest rates, inflation, & Fed’s independence20:57 - Bitcoin vs gold: which one will have a better 2025?26:39 - Grading the Trump admin on economic policy30:51 - What would Peter do if he was President?
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  • Is Bitcoin The ONLY Safe Haven Now? | Jordi Visser
    Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation, we discuss whether there’s a bubble forming and where Jordi stands — bullish or bearish, we dive into the AI trade, the supply and demand imbalance driving energy and infrastructure, the growing “debasement trade” as institutions allocate to Bitcoin and gold, we explore capitalism vs. socialism, humanoid robots, and the macro forces shaping the markets today.======================Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠======================This episode is brought to you by Figure (⁠https://figuremarkets.co/pomp⁠), the platform to Earn and Borrow. Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Figure offers Crypto-Backed Loans, allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin or Ethereum with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 8.91%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. Your BTC collateral is protected by decentralized MPC custody. You can always see your BTC ownership in your FM account and verify holdings in your personal BTC vault on chain. Unlock your crypto’s potential today. Visit their app to apply (⁠https://figuremarkets.co/pomp⁠) for a Crypto Backed Loan (⁠https://figuremarkets.co/pomp⁠) today! Figure Lending LLC dba Figure. Equal Opportunity Lender. NMLS 1717824. Terms and conditions apply. Visit figure.com for more information. Figure Markets Credit LLC. 650 S. Tryon Street, 8th Floor, Charlotte, NC 28202. (888) 926-6259. NMLS ID 2559612. Terms and conditions apply. Visit ⁠https://figuremarkets.com/borrow⁠ for more information.======================Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/======================Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers, with more than $15 billion in client assets across an expanding suite of investment solutions—including the world’s largest crypto index fund—plus products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. In addition to managing assets, Bitwise helps investors stay informed about the fast-moving crypto market. Every week, CIO Matt Hougan breaks down what’s happening in crypto in five minutes or less. Read the latest at https://experts.bitwiseinvestments.com/cio-memos. Certain Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures to learn more.======================Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro0:47 - Bubble talk is dominating the market 7:06 - The $7 Trillion AI infrastructure boom 10:03 - Impact of AI adoption 13:36 - AI job fears and market correction warnings19:18 - Credit events and private credit risks26:16 - Why the debasement trade is happening now: gold and bitcoin39:05 - The rise of humanoid robots44:06 - Outlook on compute, power, and the market 
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  • The New Bitcoin Trade Everyone Is Doing | Jeff Park
    Jeff Park is a Partner and Chief Investing Officer of ProCap BTC. In this conversation we talk the debasement trade, bitcoin vs gold, why everyone seems to be getting rich while the government is going broke, Ken Griffin & Paul Tudor Jones being so excited about the market, and what the $2 billion Polymarket deal means for the future. ======================Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠======================Core is the leading Bitcoin scaling solution, enabling you to lock in yield by locking up your Bitcoin. Simply lock it on the Bitcoin blockchain to secure the Core network, and get rewards. No bridging. No lending. Just holding. Still your keys. Still your coins. Now your yield. Start at https://stake.coredao.org/pomp======================⁠BitcoinIRA⁠: Buy, sell, and swap 75+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to ⁠https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/⁠ to earn up to $500 in rewards.======================Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 0:54 - US government going broke while everyone is getting rich? 5:00 - Why the “debasement trade” is now happening 10:13 - Wall Street capitulates to bitcoin 13:29 - Gold vs bitcoin 19:48 - 1999 vs 2025 market euphoria 24:05 - What Jeff is paying attention to 30:44 - ICE invests $2 billion in Polymarket
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  • How to Prepare for the Next Bitcoin Bull Market | Anthony & John Pompliano
    Anthony and John Pompliano discuss why bitcoin is going higher, why Ken Griffin and Paul Tudor-Jones are so bullish, how to enjoy the bull market while preparing for a storm, why the government will never stop printing money, and why asset prices are going higher. ======================Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠======================Polkadot is a scalable, secure, and decentralized blockchain technology aimed at creating Web3. Created by Gavin Wood, co-founder of Ethereum, Polkadot empowers users to build decentralized applications with ease. Backed by industry leaders, making it a preferred choice for big names, Polkadot stands out as a leading choice for investors seeking a reliable, future-proof solution in the growing world of Web3 technology. Learn more at https://polkadot.com/.======================BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 75+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $500 in rewards.======================Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 0:54 - Bitcoin reaches all-time high! 4:43 - Will bitcoin be bigger than gold? 6:36 - Wall Street is now waking up to bitcoin 11:38 - BlackRock is now a bitcoin company 14:55 - How should investors be thinking about allocation 21:07 - How to protect from downside volatility & Q4 outlook 26:42 - Why September had best performance in 15 years 32:51 - Can you sleep through the storm?
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  • Bitcoin vs. The Fed: Former Congressman Thinks Bitcoin Is the Answer | Jeb Hensarling
    Jeb Hensarling is the former Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee and one of the most influential voices in economic policy during the 2008 financial crisis. He has also joined ProCap BTC as a Senior Advisor. In this conversation, we talk about how Jeb pushed back against the bank bailouts, how those same issues led to the rise of bitcoin, his views on bitcoin, stablecoins, the broader crypto industry, and how technology and innovation are reshaping the financial system today.======================Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠======================Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/======================Xapo Bank, the world’s first fully licensed Bitcoin-enabled bank, offers military-grade security with an unmatched blend of physical and digital security, as well as pioneering regulatory oversight, so your funds are always protected. Beyond secure storage, they enable you to grow and use your Bitcoin. Earn daily interest in Bitcoin, spend with zero FX fees using a global card, and make instant payments via the Lightning Network for unrivalled access and convenience. Visit ⁠https://www.xapobank.com/pomp⁠ to join.======================Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro2:25 - 2008 bank bailouts & Satoshi6:21 - QE playbook & constant intervention10:39 - Bitcoin as protection & property rights17:11 - GENIUS Act & advice for industry regulation24:36 - How to get lawmakers educated28:11 - Why stablecoins matter for America & bitcoin33:34 - How to think through a US bitcoin strategic reserve38:39 - Opportunities in the intersection of finance and technology43:25 - Choosing optimism & why Jeb is Long America
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