456 episodes
- Turn social comments into leads with Claude + Blotato: https://clickhubspot.com/rkhv
Ep. 450
How can one Reel drive $120,000 in annual recurring revenue for your business?
Kipp, and guest Sabrina Ramonov of Blotato dive into how high-performing social content and automated DMs can be seamlessly converted into real revenue and loyal customers. Learn more on building viral social funnels, the power of DM automation for lead capture and monetization, and why treating short-form video as advertising for your long-form brand is the ultimate growth strategy.
Mentions
Sabrina Ramonov https://www.youtube.com/@sabrina_ramonov
Blotato https://www.blotato.com/
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
Claude https://claude.ai/
ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/
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Resource
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Ep. 449
Is informational content on the internet dead?
Kipp, Kieran, and guest Matt Wolfe (Future Tools) dive into how you can reclaim hours each week by automating newsletter reading, brand mentions, and industry news updates with your own personal AI system. Learn more on building a custom info dashboard with AI agents, the future of media consumption and creator-business relationships, and how you can leverage open-source tools to create a second brain for your work and life.
Mentions
Matt Wolfe https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
GitHub https://github.com/
Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/technology/developers-tools/build-with-gemini-omni-1-1-flash/
Codex https://chatgpt.com/codex/
Claude https://claude.ai/
Obsidian https://obsidian.md/
Ask Kipp and Kieran a question!
https://form.asana.com/?k=U4n5W_3WC2SkQO1bwK8Xzg&d=8587152060687
Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt
Resource
[Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip
We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod
Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg
Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!
Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934
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Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar
Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat
‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke. - Build your AI marketing department with this Claude skill: https://clickhubspot.com/uyon
Ep. 448
Can you really fire your entire marketing team and replace them with AI?
Kieran dives into the reality behind agentic marketing systems by putting an AI-powered marketing “team” to the test for a fast-growth AI company. Learn more on how AI audits and rewrites website copy, tackles product positioning, competes in search and LLMs, and whether these emerging systems can actually outperform the average marketer or just generate average results.
Mentions
Open Source GitHub system https://github.com/Yuzzyuk/marketing-os
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
Claude https://claude.ai/login
ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/
Ramp https://ramp.com/
1Mind https://www.1mind.com/
Ask Kipp and Kieran a question!
https://form.asana.com/?k=U4n5W_3WC2SkQO1bwK8Xzg&d=8587152060687
Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt
Resource
[Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip
We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod
Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg
Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!
Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934
We really appreciate your support.
Host Links:
Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar
Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat
‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke. - Get our anti-AI slop checklist: https://clickhubspot.com/lhug
Ep. 447
For most people, AI is making your marketing worse. For a select few, it's making it 10 times better.
Kipp and guest David Epstein (author of Range (#1 NYT bestseller) and the new Inside the Box: How Constraints Make Us Better (May 2026)) dive into why AI is creating a wave of “slop marketing” and what marketers can do to protect—and strengthen—their critical thinking in an age of automation. Learn more on proven frameworks for defining the right problems, the power of independent team thinking, and how cutting through complexity helps you deliver clear, remarkable marketing.
Mentions
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
David Epstein https://davidepstein.com/
Inside the Box: How Constraints Make Us Better https://a.co/d/0dSEv0R5
Nest https://home.nest.com/
Scite https://scite.ai/
Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt
Resource
[Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip
We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod
Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg
Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!
Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934
We really appreciate your support.
Host Links:
Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar
Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat
‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke. - Free: build a Claude-powered content engine https://clickhubspot.com/mslb
Ep 446
What does it actually take to 5x your solo marketing business in a year using AI?
Kipp, Kieran, and guest Barbara Jovanovic (Founder of Startup Cookie) dive into how top solo marketers are scaling agencies with agentic AI systems, and why most automated LinkedIn content totally misses the mark. Learn more on how agentic systems drive efficiency and scale for one-person teams, the difference between building a real content workflow versus relying on prompts, and why authentic insights—not just automation—are the secret to standout founder-led growth on LinkedIn and X.
Mentions
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
Barbara Jovanovic https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbara-startup-cookie
StartupCookie https://startupcookie.com/
Claude https://claude.ai/
ChatGPT https://claude.ai/
ChatGPT Codex https://chatgpt.com/codex/
Granola https://www.granola.ai/
Buffer https://buffer.com/
Wispr Flow https://wisprflow.ai/
Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt
Resource
[Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip
We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod
Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg
Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!
Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934
We really appreciate your support.
Host Links:
Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar
Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat
‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
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Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Hubspot's SVP of Marketing), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.
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