Don't Worry About the Vase Podcast
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* 00:00 - Introduction
* 01:19 - The Even Shorter Version
* 02:44 - The Shorter Version
* 05:08 - Phase 1: OpenAI Models Training On Impossible Tasks Try Hacking
* 06:09 - Phase 1: The Four Failures
* 07:59 - Phase 2: The Message Board
* 10:02 - Phase 2: The Total Failure
* 13:01 - Phase 3: We Get Lucky And Galaxy Mainly Hacked OpenAI and HuggingFace
* 15:14 - Phase 3: The Details
* 18:05 - Phase 4: The Investigation and Reaction
https://thezvi.substack.com/p/what-happened-openai-and-huggingface?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web
Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe OpenAI Trained Its Models For Months While Those Models Were Coordinating Exploits Via Message Boards
07/08/2026 | 1h 27 mins.The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.
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00:00:00 - Introduction
00:02:51 - Cyber Evals Are A Cursed Basin
00:05:34 - Outside Of Cyber Evals Is Still Sufficiently Cursed
00:07:13 - Cheat Cheat Cheat Cheat Cheat
00:12:51 - Read The Message Board
00:15:35 - Updating Your AI (Exploitation of OpenAI Internal Systems) Timelines
00:19:14 - This Is The Way The World Ends
00:23:12 - Shooting The Messenger Board
00:29:27 - The Internal and HuggingFace Hacks
00:32:43 - OpenAI Responds
00:35:34 - When AIs Tell You Who They Are
00:38:04 - The Once and Future Rise Of Functional Decision Theory
00:44:11 - Don’t Panic
00:46:18 - Hackery In the UK
00:53:54 - Mythos Knew It Was Real This Time
00:55:57 - I Got one hundred forty-one thousand six Test Runs With An Unintentional Open Path To The Internet And An Email Alert Aint One
00:59:56 - Surely By Now You Know These Are Not Publicity Stunts
01:01:50 - The Future Is Coming
01:03:59 - The Investigations Begin
01:06:56 - N Boats And Three Helicopters
01:08:28 - Always Be Sandbox Red Teaming
01:20:22 - Halt And Catch Fire
01:21:56 - Truth and Reconciliation
https://thezvi.substack.com/p/openai-trained-its-models-for-months?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web
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* 00:00:00 - Introduction
* 00:02:11 - Table of Contents
* 00:05:07 - Language Models Offer Mundane Utility
* 00:05:52 - Huh, Upgrades
* 00:08:44 - On Your Marks
* 00:10:22 - Choose Your Fighter
* 00:12:21 - Get My Agent On The Line
* 00:14:01 - Deepfaketown and Botpocalypse Soon
* 00:17:06 - Fun With Media Generation
* 00:18:56 - Cyber Lack of Security
* 00:25:01 - Some People Need Practical Advice
* 00:28:09 - A Young Lady’s Illustrated Primer
* 00:29:46 - They Took Our Jobs
* 00:33:20 - Get Involved
* 00:33:30 - Introducing
* 00:33:40 - Demis Hassabis No Longer CEO At DeepMind, Jeff Dean Leaves
* 00:38:57 - In Other AI News
* 00:39:36 - AI Persuasion Exceeds Human Level Over Similar Text Channels
* 00:44:06 - Show Me the Money
* 00:47:44 - Bubble, Bubble, Toil and Trouble
* 00:48:39 - Quiet Speculations
* 00:49:39 - My Offer Is Nothing
* 00:57:40 - The Quest for Sane Regulations
* 00:59:43 - Chip City
* 01:02:56 - The Week in Audio
* 01:03:18 - People Just Say Things
* 01:03:47 - Rhetorical Innovation
* 01:07:38 - Open Weights Models Are Unsafe And Nothing Can Fix This
* 01:10:30 - Cooperative Alignment
* 01:15:19 - Other People Are Not As Worried About AI Killing Everyone
* 01:16:01 - The Lighter Side
https://thezvi.substack.com/p/ai-180-no-longer-in-charge?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web
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* 00:00 - Introduction
* 00:22 - Three Pills
* 00:57 - The Unpill People
* 02:00 - The AI Pill
* 04:09 - Stuck At The First Pill
* 05:07 - The AGI Pill
* 06:43 - The Need To Be Prepared
* 08:36 - The ASI Pill
* 10:12 - And Then Nothing Much Changes For You
* 12:19 - Intelligence Denialism
* 13:41 - Superintelligence Versus Omniscience and Omnipotence
* 16:19 - Persuasion Persuasion (A Worked Example)
* 21:49 - Things AI Could Probably Do But Are Not Required For Being Pilled
* 24:21 - Life Comes At You Increasingly Fast
* 25:41 - Is It Reasonable To Not Be AGI Pilled?
* 26:05 - Is It Reasonable To Only Be AGI Pilled?
https://thezvi.substack.com/p/the-three-ai-pills?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web
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* 00:00 - Introduction
* 06:24 - How Impressive Are These Results?
* 15:01 - Could We Have Called Sol or Fable?
* 20:40 - It’s Coming
* 22:38 - They Still Don’t See What Is The It That Is Coming
* 26:15 - Is This AGI?
* 28:09 - The AI Solved His Favorite Problems
* 33:44 - Was This Surprising?
* 35:56 - Are People Not Impressed?
* 38:02 - How Much Does This Change Our Predictions?
* 41:20 - How Narrow Was This?
* 43:17 - Seeing Like an Optimizer
https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/openais-unreleased-model-astra-solves?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web
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