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Steven Scott, Shaun Preece, Steven Scott, Shaun Preece
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  • Double Tap

    Lumin Shuts Down, SpeakTab Makes Music Accessible, and Good Vibes Is Coming

    12/11/2026 | 56 mins.
    Lumin, the voice-first email app built for blind users, is shutting down. Steven Scott and Shaun Preece look at why, then meet Eden Brown, who used vibe coding to build SpeakTab, an accessible music and guitar tab reader.
    Lumin stops working on 1 December 2026, and the team says competition from ChatGPT and other big AI platforms made it impossible to sustain. Steven and Shaun replay part of their September chat with founder Sriram Ganesh and ask some hard questions. Did launching free make charging later impossible? How does a small specialist app get noticed when AI tools keep multiplying?
    Eden Brown, a court reporter and guitarist, explains how she built SpeakTab with Codex. It reads MusicXML, Guitar Pro files and text tabs by beat and measure. It can also loop sections, slow the tempo for practice, write music from plain-language input and connect to an optional AI teacher. There's a Windows version and an Android build tested on the BrailleSense 7.
    The conversation then turns to Braille. Eden argues that audio alone isn't literacy. Steven pushes back on advocacy that suggests Braille is the only route to success. They disagree on some points and agree on many more.
    Before that, the hosts deal with an eero router outage that briefly felt like the end of the world, a viewer who noticed Steven wears the same blue shirt every day, and the question "are you two really blind?" To close, Steven and Shaun announce Good Vibes, their new podcast about the tools blind people are building with AI, and Steven reviews the retro Sony MDR-3R headphones.
    Chapters
    0:00 – Intro
    0:17 – Shed heating, emergency prep and an eero outage
    4:02 – The same blue shirt and "are you really blind?"
    9:47 – Lumin shuts down
    25:32 – Eden Brown and SpeakTab
    34:41 – Braille, literacy and employment
    45:35 – Getting SpeakTab and sending feedback
    51:41 – Introducing the Good Vibes podcast
    53:24 – Sony MDR-3R headphones review
    Relevant Links
    Double Tap: https://doubletaponair.com
    Double Tap Live and Good Vibes: https://live.doubletaponair.com
    SpeakTab: https://speaktab.pages.dev
    SpeakTab on GitHub: https://github.com/edenkizerccr-coder/speaktab
    Lumin shutdown notice: https://www.trylumin.ai
    Sony MDR-3R announcement: https://sony.mediaroom.com/2026-11-05-Sony-Electronics-Introduces-MDR-3R-USB-C-R-1-Wired-Headphones,-a-Modern-Take-on-the-First-Walkman-R-Headphones-MDR-3

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    About Double Tap
    Hosted by the insightful duo, Steven Scott and Shaun Preece, Double Tap is a treasure trove of information for anyone who's blind or partially sighted and has a passion for tech. Steven and Shaun not only demystify tech, but they also regularly feature interviews and welcome guests from the community, fostering an interactive and engaging environment. Tune in every day of the week, and you'll discover how technology can seamlessly integrate into your life, enhancing daily tasks and experiences, even if your sight is limited.
    "Double Tap" is a registered trademark of Double Tap Productions Inc.

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  • Double Tap

    HapWare Aleye, Time's Best Inventions and the Smart Glasses Ban Debate

    11/11/2026 | 56 mins.
    HapWare's Aleye wristband, named one of Time Magazine's Best Inventions of 2026, turns smiles, waves and handshakes into vibrations that blind users can feel. CEO Jack Walters explains what has changed, along with pricing, pre-orders and privacy. Steven Scott and Shaun Preece also take on the growing push to ban smart glasses.
    The show starts with the other assistive tech on Time's list, the Mangoslab Nemonic Dot braille label printer. That leads to a moan about braille labelling. The electronic options, like the 6dot label maker, cost well over $1,000, and the old manual embossers take more hand strength than Steven has.
    Steven was back on BBC In Touch, and he's tired of hearing that Meta smart glasses should be banned from pubs, pools and even whole countries. He points out that privacy and decency laws already cover misuse, as they did with phones. Shaun pushes back on calling the glasses life-changing, and they get into what actually counts as essential for blind people.
    Jack Walters, CEO and co-founder of HapWare, tells Shaun how Aleye has grown beyond facial expressions. It now reads text and spots objects without being asked, such as the aisle you're standing in. It works with any Meta glasses or your phone camera, and you don't need Meta's live AI. Jack talks about learning the haptic patterns, how much beta testers wanted to know, and the first watch-sized standalone prototype.
    Pre-orders are open until 31 December with a $59 deposit toward a $359 price. The first batch is 500 units, aimed at a launch around May 2027. The subscription is $20 a month or $199 a year. Jack also covers SOC 2 security, opting in to share data, and shipping to the UK, Canada and Australia after the US.
    Chapters
    0:00 – Intro: Time Magazine's Best Inventions of 2026
    1:52 – Nemonic Dot and the cost of braille labels
    7:43 – BBC In Touch and the smart glasses ban debate
    20:50 – Jack Walters from HapWare joins
    23:45 – How Aleye turns visual cues into haptics
    26:36 – Unprompted text and object detection
    32:33 – Learning the haptic patterns
    37:00 – Beta feedback and the first standalone prototype
    41:29 – Time award impact, pre-orders, pricing and privacy
    51:39 – Wrap-up and your feedback
    Relevant Links
    HapWare: https://hapware.com
    HapWare Aleye pre-order: https://hapware.com/pre-order
    Mangoslab Nemonic Dot: https://mangoslab.com/NEMONIC-DOT-printer
    Aira: https://aira.io
    Be My Eyes: https://www.bemyeyes.com

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    About Double Tap
    Hosted by the insightful duo, Steven Scott and Shaun Preece, Double Tap is a treasure trove of information for anyone who's blind or partially sighted and has a passion for tech. Steven and Shaun not only demystify tech, but they also regularly feature interviews and welcome guests from the community, fostering an interactive and engaging environment. Tune in every day of the week, and you'll discover how technology can seamlessly integrate into your life, enhancing daily tasks and experiences, even if your sight is limited.
    "Double Tap" is a registered trademark of Double Tap Productions Inc.

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  • Double Tap

    TurnOver for Mac and the Latest on Glidance's Glide

    10/11/2026 | 56 mins.
    TurnOver, a free and open source screen reader for the Mac, has Steven Scott and Shaun Preece rethinking the Mac. Glidance CEO Amos Miller also shares what more than 30 pilot users have learned from Glide in the real world, and when everyone else can expect theirs.
    Listener Barry starts with his first 10 days on TurnOver. You can use NVDA or JAWS keys on a Mac, open its menu with Control Command Comma, and if TurnOver crashes, VoiceOver comes back on automatically. Steven explains why moving around with Tab and Shift Tab makes WhatsApp and Messages much quicker. He also worries that lots of open source forks could thin out the project, and he advises cautious users to wait while it's this early.
    Amos Miller tells Shaun that Glide users walked their two and a half millionth step in mid-October. He's open about what still needs work: keeping a line on the sidewalk, walking along a road beside a grass verge, and lining up for road crossings. He also explains why new users should practise on a long, clear, straight stretch before taking Glide anywhere else.
    The team has sped up work on the Glide agent, which adds scene description and lets you say "guide me to" the blue door, the bus stop or the person with the dog. Amos says the hardware design is now settled and explains why faster, smaller AI models matter for a physical guide.
    Pre-orders won't ship before Christmas as planned. Amos expects the main software fixes around January or February, and a final round of hardware fixes pushes deliveries into early 2027. Meanwhile, more people are joining the pilot.
    Chapters
    0:00 – Welcome and an Al Pacino impression
    5:28 – Barry tries TurnOver for Mac
    9:04 – TurnOver, open source forks and the Apple question
    20:54 – Amos Miller on Glide's real-world pilot
    24:51 – Pilot lessons and current limitations
    29:25 – The Glide agent: scene description and guided navigation
    40:51 – Why the Glide hardware is settled
    44:01 – How AI progress shaped Glide
    47:27 – New release timeline and Amos's confidence
    54:08 – Takeaways and tomorrow's HapWare interview
    Relevant Links
    Glidance: https://www.glidance.io
    TurnOver: https://doll-eye.github.io/turnover-updates/
    TurnOver on GitHub: https://github.com/TurnOver-For-Mac/turnover
    HapWare: https://hapware.com

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    About Double Tap
    Hosted by the insightful duo, Steven Scott and Shaun Preece, Double Tap is a treasure trove of information for anyone who's blind or partially sighted and has a passion for tech. Steven and Shaun not only demystify tech, but they also regularly feature interviews and welcome guests from the community, fostering an interactive and engaging environment. Tune in every day of the week, and you'll discover how technology can seamlessly integrate into your life, enhancing daily tasks and experiences, even if your sight is limited.
    "Double Tap" is a registered trademark of Double Tap Productions Inc.

    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
  • Double Tap

    Nvidia's Jensen Huang Makes Headlines and a Conversation with The Blind Life's Sam Seavey

    09/11/2026 | 56 mins.
    Sam Seavey from The Blind Life joins Steven Scott and Shaun Preece to talk about making YouTube content with low vision, accessible Sony cameras, the Tovala smart oven, and whether it matters if you call yourself blind or low vision.
    The show opens with Shaun's run of Suno songs. Then the hosts get into the news that Nvidia is investigating CEO Jensen Huang over his affair with a suspected Chinese spy, and what an AI bubble bursting could mean, including for Europe.
    Sam Seavey has been one of the most requested guests, and he talks about his story: Stargardt's disease, life in Kentucky, and how videos about Android phones turned into The Blind Life. He records, edits and uploads everything himself. He explains how a fixed studio setup and the built-in screen readers on Sony Alpha cameras make that possible. He also reviews a 27-inch Android tablet and talks about the flood of new apps from AI-assisted developers.
    The conversation then turns to labels. Sam explains why he calls himself blind, why so many people avoid using a cane, and how the low vision versus blind debate plays out inside the community. He also gives his hands-on take on the Tovala smart oven and how accessible it is.
    To close, Steven and Shaun reflect on the conversation and look at dual monitor support coming to Windows Magnifier.
    Chapters
    0:00 – Intro and a weekend of Suno songs
    3:06 – Nvidia, Jensen Huang and the AI bubble
    10:26 – Sam Seavey joins Double Tap
    13:25 – A 27-inch Android tablet
    17:03 – AI-built apps and accessibility
    22:03 – Who is Sam Seavey?
    28:29 – Creating content solo and Sony's accessible cameras
    36:16 – Advocacy, labels and using your cane
    47:06 – The Tovala smart oven
    52:13 – Wrap-up and Windows Magnifier updates
    Relevant Links
    The Blind Life: https://www.theblindlife.net
    Tovala Accessibility: https://www.tovala.com/accessibility
    Aira: https://aira.io
    Suno: https://suno.com

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    About Double Tap
    Hosted by the insightful duo, Steven Scott and Shaun Preece, Double Tap is a treasure trove of information for anyone who's blind or partially sighted and has a passion for tech. Steven and Shaun not only demystify tech, but they also regularly feature interviews and welcome guests from the community, fostering an interactive and engaging environment. Tune in every day of the week, and you'll discover how technology can seamlessly integrate into your life, enhancing daily tasks and experiences, even if your sight is limited.
    "Double Tap" is a registered trademark of Double Tap Productions Inc.

    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
  • Double Tap

    macOS Frustrations, the TurnOver Screen Reader and Offline GPS for Blind Users

    06/11/2026 | 56 mins.
    Can VoiceOver on the Mac be made friendlier for blind users coming over from Windows? Steven Scott opens up the MacBook Neo, fights with the FaceTime app and finds a VoiceOver setting that changes how macOS navigation works. Shaun Preece pushes back, and the pair look at TurnOver, a new open source screen reader for the Mac.
    Steven explains the Announce Groups and No Groups options under Navigation in VoiceOver settings (VO-F8). They let you move around without interacting with every group, and they make it easier to get into web content in Safari and Chrome. The hosts also cover single letter Quick Nav, the rotor and the actions menu, and ask whether VoiceOver's many settings work for it or against it.
    TurnOver, a free screen reader that runs alongside VoiceOver, gets the hosts thinking about community-built tools for the Mac and whether Apple's accessibility APIs will eventually get in the way.
    In the listener mail, James in Missouri argues that the iPhone and braille displays should come with manuals. That leads to a talk about onboarding, a "granny test" for tech companies, and young children using smartphones. Peter explains how Meta's walking directions on Ray-Ban glasses work alongside Soundscape Community. Siobhan asks where the spatial audio setting is. David needs GPS for rural areas with no signal, which brings up BlindSquare, Soundscape and the HumanWare StellarTrek.
    Chapters
    0:00 – Welcome
    0:34 – MacBook Neo, macOS and FaceTime frustrations
    7:35 – VoiceOver Announce Groups and navigation settings
    18:52 – TurnOver, a community screen reader for the Mac
    27:10 – James on manuals and onboarding
    36:20 – Kids, smartphones and TikTok
    41:08 – Peter on Meta navigation and Soundscape Community
    44:43 – Siobhan asks about spatial audio
    47:03 – David asks about offline GPS and the StellarTrek
    53:48 – Double Tap app, JAWS 2027 and wrap-up
    Relevant Links
    Double Tap: https://doubletaponair.com
    MacBook Neo: https://www.apple.com/macbook-neo/
    TurnOver: https://github.com/TurnOver-For-Mac/turnover
    Soundscape Community: https://soundscape.services/
    BlindSquare: https://www.blindsquare.com/
    HumanWare StellarTrek: https://www.humanware.com/support/stellartrek/
    JAWS, ZoomText and Fusion 2027: https://training.vispero.com/download-jaws-zoomtext-and-fusion-2027/

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    About Double Tap
    Hosted by the insightful duo, Steven Scott and Shaun Preece, Double Tap is a treasure trove of information for anyone who's blind or partially sighted and has a passion for tech. Steven and Shaun not only demystify tech, but they also regularly feature interviews and welcome guests from the community, fostering an interactive and engaging environment. Tune in every day of the week, and you'll discover how technology can seamlessly integrate into your life, enhancing daily tasks and experiences, even if your sight is limited.
    "Double Tap" is a registered trademark of Double Tap Productions Inc.

    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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About Double Tap
Double Tap is the show where blind people talk tech! If you’re blind or partially sighted and have an interest in technology, this is the show for you. Everyone is welcome no matter how old you are or how much or how little experience you have with technology. Each week the team will help you better understand how technology can help your everyday life, even if you have little or no sight.
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