Double Tap

Can a blind person get real use from smart glasses with a screen? Steven Scott has bought the Meta Ray-Ban Display and Meta Neural Band. He and Shaun Preece talk through the built-in screen reader, the wrist gestures, WhatsApp, Maps and what is still missing.
Steven expected the in-lens display to be useless to him. He was wrong. The glasses have their own screen reader, and you switch it on from the Meta AI app. Setup walks you through the Neural Band gestures well: rub your thumb along your index finger to swipe, and pinch to double tap. WhatsApp turns out to be the standout, with full message history, dictation and voice messages, all without taking out your phone. The Maps app even works in the UK. There are still rough edges: the text size setting doesn't save, there's no screen curtain, and so far there aren't many apps.
Earlier in the show, Steven and Shaun look back at the first Double Tap Live and the news from Lumin founder Sriram Ganesh, including Outlook support. That leads into Steven's mixed feelings about Siri on the iOS 27 beta, a VoiceOver volume bug when calls come in, and whether services that launch free can keep going. Now that blind people can build their own tools with AI, what does that mean for developers?
There's news on the Double Tap app, which is waiting on Apple approval with Android to follow, plus the refreshed website. You'll soon be able to put forward podcasts for Double Tap Live. Listener Richard from Louisiana closes the show with how walking directions on Meta glasses actually work. He finds them more accurate than Google Maps, though they're fussy about street addresses.
Chapters
0:00 – Intro: glasses with a screen
1:15 – Double Tap Live recap and Lumin news
5:09 – Siri, the iOS 27 beta and VoiceOver volume
8:25 – Paying for apps and building your own with AI
13:10 – Double Tap app, new website and podcast submissions
19:46 – Meta Ray-Ban Display and Neural Band explained
29:05 – Screen reader, magnification and accessibility settings
35:36 – WhatsApp and Maps on the glasses
44:16 – Low vision, screen curtain and accessible wearables
50:39 – Richard on Meta glasses walking navigation
Have you tried the Meta Ray-Ban Display, or walking directions on Meta glasses? Email feedback@doubletaponair.com. Subscribe so you don't miss an episode, and listen to Double Tap Live any time of day.
Relevant Links
Double Tap Live: https://doubletaponair.com/live
Meta Ray-Ban Display: https://www.meta.com/ai-glasses/meta-ray-ban-display/
Lumin: https://www.trylumin.ai/
Zero Project: https://zeroproject.org
Be My Eyes: https://www.bemyeyes.com
Aira: https://aira.io

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About Double Tap
Hosted by the insightful duo, Steven Scott and Shaun Preece, Double Tap is a treasure trove of information for anyone who's blind or partially sighted and has a passion for tech. Steven and Shaun not only demystify tech, but they also regularly feature interviews and welcome guests from the community, fostering an interactive and engaging environment. Tune in every day of the week, and you'll discover how technology can seamlessly integrate into your life, enhancing daily tasks and experiences, even if your sight is limited.
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Meta smart glasses bugs, privacy worries and region limits fill the Double Tap inbox, and Steven Scott and Shaun Preece work through them with blind listeners. The episode also marks the launch of Double Tap Live, a new 24/7 radio channel at DoubleTapOnAir.com.
Listeners are running into the same Meta AI bug: an "available settings have changed" notice that switches Meta AI off. Callum and Gordon have lost the UK voices, Melissa finds the Meta AI app hard to use with VoiceOver, and Gordon says the microphone fix on his Adventurer glasses only partly works. Brian explains how he set up Meta glasses for a 93-year-old woman, including a Wi-Fi automation that opens the Meta AI app for her.
Kevin wants people to stop calling smart glasses "pervert glasses", and the hosts discuss whether news coverage of blind users helps. Maya in South Africa gets "not available in your region" from Meta AI, which leads to a talk about unclear feature rollouts, the need for tech from outside the US, and learning to write Braille as well as read it. Shaun also explains why Oorion can be too chatty when it warns about obstacles.
Camille tests the new AirPods in strong wind. John asks why blind users should care about touchscreens on Google Books, and there's news that Google plans to phase out ChromeOS by 2034. To finish, Trevor explains how the show helped him write and publish his first novel as a blind author, using AI as an accessible editing tool.
Chapters
0:00 – Welcome and the Double Tap Live launch
3:08 – Meta AI "available settings have changed" bug and Oorion
11:03 – Setting up Meta glasses for a 93-year-old
17:24 – Smart glasses privacy and public perception
27:56 – AMI Scholarship for students with a disability
30:21 – Meta AI region limits and learning Braille
38:16 – Meta app settings, microphone fixes and missing UK voices
44:42 – AirPods in the wind
47:27 – Google Books, touchscreens and the end of ChromeOS
52:32 – A blind author's AI-assisted writing workflow
Call to Action
Listen to Double Tap Live around the clock at DoubleTapOnAir.com/live or ask your smart speaker for it. Send us your thoughts on Meta glasses, Braille or anything else, and subscribe so you don't miss an episode.
Relevant Links
Double Tap Live: https://doubletaponair.com/live
AMI Scholarship Program: https://www.ami.ca/scholarship
Oorion: https://www.oorion.fr/en
EchoVision by AGIGA: https://agiga.ai/

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About Double Tap
Hosted by the insightful duo, Steven Scott and Shaun Preece, Double Tap is a treasure trove of information for anyone who's blind or partially sighted and has a passion for tech. Steven and Shaun not only demystify tech, but they also regularly feature interviews and welcome guests from the community, fostering an interactive and engaging environment. Tune in every day of the week, and you'll discover how technology can seamlessly integrate into your life, enhancing daily tasks and experiences, even if your sight is limited.
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Double Tap Live, a new 24/7 radio channel for blind and visually impaired listeners, launches this week. Listener stories also cover Luna night vision glasses, LEGO without sight and Claude Code tips.
Steven Scott and Shaun Preece explain what Double Tap Live is: a round-the-clock channel showcasing podcasts from AMI and beyond, plus a monthly live call-in show. The first one features Sriram Ganesh from Lumin, the voice-first email app. Call 613-481-0144 to take part, or use the same number on WhatsApp.
Alan in Forfar tells how Bricks for the Blind's text instructions brought back a hobby from his sighted years. He has built a Formula One car and a bonsai tree, and he uses Ray-Ban Meta glasses to check brick colours. Abhijit shares what building his own accessible API testing tool with Claude Code taught him: plan the architecture early, let Claude move files, and know what each permission request does before you approve it.
Derry in Dublin talks about audiobooks, ElevenReader and reading braille on a Dot Pad X. Mike in New Zealand explains why the right Alt key turns into AltGr on some Windows keyboard layouts. Raheem describes a manager who was afraid of his guide dog, and the hosts discuss how guide dog owners and employers can make room for each other.
Pete tells how Luna glasses let his wife, who has RP, see trees, faces and colours after dark for the first time in 40 years. It raises the question of why tools this life-changing are not easier to fund.
Chapters
0:00 – Welcome to Double Tap
1:09 – Double Tap Live: a 24/7 channel
6:22 – Lumin joins the first live call-in show
12:05 – Alan builds LEGO with Bricks for the Blind
19:55 – Abhijit's Claude Code tips and a DIY social media tool
28:14 – Derry on audiobooks, ElevenReader and braille
35:16 – Right Alt vs AltGr keyboard layouts
38:10 – Raheem on guide dogs at work and in hospital
47:42 – Pete's real-world review of Luna glasses
Relevant Links
Double Tap Live: https://doubletaponair.com/live
Lumin: https://www.trylumin.ai/
Bricks for the Blind: https://bricksfortheblind.org/
Ray-Ban Meta: https://www.meta.com/ai-glasses/ray-ban-meta/
Claude Code: https://claude.com/product/claude-code
ElevenReader: https://elevenreader.io/
Luna Glasses: https://seewithluna.com/
AMI Research Panel: https://www.ami.ca/panel

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About Double Tap
Hosted by the insightful duo, Steven Scott and Shaun Preece, Double Tap is a treasure trove of information for anyone who's blind or partially sighted and has a passion for tech. Steven and Shaun not only demystify tech, but they also regularly feature interviews and welcome guests from the community, fostering an interactive and engaging environment. Tune in every day of the week, and you'll discover how technology can seamlessly integrate into your life, enhancing daily tasks and experiences, even if your sight is limited.
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Passkeys were supposed to replace passwords, so why are they still this hard to use? Steven Scott and Shaun Preece go through a full mailbag on passkeys, password managers, blind employment and the backlash against Meta Ray-Ban smart glasses.
Listener Brandon explains why he's cancelling Microsoft 365: he says Microsoft pushes its own passkey storage over third-party providers. Steven shares his frustrations with 1Password and with Apple's app-specific passwords, and floats the idea of building a self-hosted password manager. He also tells how Seeing AI and an Aira agent helped him bring a silent Asus ProArt laptop back to life after it hit a BitLocker prompt.
Cheryl, a legally blind hospital social worker in Australia, describes changing how health professionals see blindness, one colleague at a time. That leads into a frank talk about job interviews, giving up, self-employment, and how AI tools like Claude, Gemini and ChatGPT open up new ways to earn a living. Steven built a Ring camera describer in ten minutes, and Shaun then did the same for Blink.
Allison refuses to be pushed out of wearing her Meta glasses. The hosts argue that people who misuse the technology should face prosecution, and that banning the glasses isn't the answer. Also in the mailbag: HumanWare's free audio tutorial for the Ray-Ban Meta glasses, a SmartVision 3 owner asking for more power, and news that the Clicks Communicator is due in December.
Chapters
0:00 – Welcome and Meta glasses battery life
4:09 – Passkeys, Microsoft and 1Password
12:43 – A dead laptop, Seeing AI, Aira and BitLocker
18:52 – Seeing AI reads on-screen TV text
22:00 – Sighted family members and audio description
24:18 – A blind social worker in hospital
31:23 – Blind employment, self-employment and AI
40:34 – Smart glasses backlash and privacy
52:23 – HumanWare tutorial, SmartVision 3 and Clicks Communicator
Relevant Links
HumanWare Ray-Ban Meta support and audio tutorial: https://www.humanware.com/support/ray-ban-meta/
Seeing AI: https://www.seeingai.com
Aira: https://aira.io
1Password: https://1password.com
Clicks Communicator: https://clicks.tech/communicator
AMI Scholarship: https://www.ami.ca/scholarship

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About Double Tap
Hosted by the insightful duo, Steven Scott and Shaun Preece, Double Tap is a treasure trove of information for anyone who's blind or partially sighted and has a passion for tech. Steven and Shaun not only demystify tech, but they also regularly feature interviews and welcome guests from the community, fostering an interactive and engaging environment. Tune in every day of the week, and you'll discover how technology can seamlessly integrate into your life, enhancing daily tasks and experiences, even if your sight is limited.
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Meta's Wearables Device Access Toolkit is out of beta, and Meta chose accessibility apps to show it off. Stéphanie Robieux, co-founder and CEO of OOrion, joins from Meta Connect to explain what this means for blind and low vision people using Ray-Ban Meta glasses.
OOrion finds objects and guides you to them with spatial audio. It now runs on Meta's glasses, so you can look around and ask where your keys are, which gate you're at, or what's in a tin, without holding up a phone. Stéphanie talks about Meta's new discovery platform, the coming "Hey Meta, open OOrion" command, and the Connect panel where she told Meta's Chris Barbour that accessibility is the most important thing these glasses can do.
Steven Scott and Stéphanie also get into the business side. OOrion stays free for users, and venues like museums, hotels and train stations pay to have the AI trained on their spaces. A big deal with the French supermarket chain Intermarché may be close.
The conversation also covers Europe's stricter rules, why running mostly on the device made the move to glasses easier, how feedback from OOrion users led Meta to cut latency and add Wi-Fi streaming, and what's next, including Find Anything and giving users context inside complex places like hospitals.
Chapters
0:00 – Intro: Meta's toolkit comes out of beta
1:27 – Inside Meta Connect at Menlo Park
3:37 – Discovery platform and "Hey Meta, open OOrion"
7:50 – Why accessibility matters most on smart glasses
11:02 – Museums, remote controls and design for everyone
13:29 – Free for users: the venue business model and Intermarché
16:28 – Listening to the community
18:53 – Working with Meta, European rules and latency
23:24 – Running locally versus cloud AI
25:09 – What's next: Find Anything and smarter places
Relevant Links
OOrion: https://www.oorion.fr/en
Meta Wearables Developer Center: https://wearables.developer.meta.com/
Ray-Ban Meta and Meta AI glasses: https://www.meta.com/ai-glasses/

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About Double Tap
Hosted by the insightful duo, Steven Scott and Shaun Preece, Double Tap is a treasure trove of information for anyone who's blind or partially sighted and has a passion for tech. Steven and Shaun not only demystify tech, but they also regularly feature interviews and welcome guests from the community, fostering an interactive and engaging environment. Tune in every day of the week, and you'll discover how technology can seamlessly integrate into your life, enhancing daily tasks and experiences, even if your sight is limited.
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