It's not all about the numbers!

In this episode of It's Not All About the Numbers, Chris Argent and Mike Rose are joined by Michael Mills, Global Director of Finance and Shared Services at Aramex, to talk ambition, adaptability and what it takes to keep growing as a leader.

From his Top Gun-inspired RAF ambitions to leaving JLR for a new industry, culture and life in the Middle East, Michael shares why he deliberately puts himself in uncomfortable situations, how feedback changed his leadership style, and why celebrating the wins can be just as important as chasing the next 1%.
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AI can write the email. Analyse the documents. Brainstorm the strategy.

But would you actually put it in charge?

In this episode of So What...?, Chris, Mike and Joel take on the rise of the bot boss and ask what happens when AI stops being something we talk to and starts becoming something we delegate to.

From agentic AI going spectacularly off-piste to the danger of leaders blindly accepting convincing AI-generated answers, the team debate how far they're willing to hand over control.

Is keeping a human in the loop enough? Or does AI become significantly less useful the moment we put it on a tight leash?
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What separates a manager from a leader?

In this episode of It's Not All About the Numbers, Chris Argent and Mike Rose are joined by Dr Veronika von Heise-Rotenburg, CFO and Managing Director at Everphone, to explore why leadership is a skill that must be learned, not simply inherited through promotion.

The conversation covers everything from mentoring and developing future leaders to the evolution of the CFO role, the impact of AI on finance and why tomorrow's finance leaders will spend less time administering the business and more time enabling it.
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Everyone seems to have a podcast these days.

But why?

In this episode of So What...?, Chris Argent, Mike Rose and Joel Johansen turn the microphones on themselves to explore why podcasting has exploded, what keeps them coming back after almost 150 episodes, and whether the world really needs another show.

The conversation goes beyond content creation, exploring trust, learning, community and why podcasts have become the modern equivalent of pub conversations. They also debate whether we've reached peak podcast, or whether the best conversations are still to come.
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From sorting mail and changing light bulbs to becoming Global CFO of Interbrand, Ben Castle's career definitely didn't follow the traditional finance playbook.
In this episode of It's Not All About the Numbers, Chris Argent and Mike Rose talk to Ben about curiosity, continuous learning and why some of the best finance careers aren't planned at all.

They explore how the finance function is changing, why Ben hired a data analyst with no finance background into his team, the skills tomorrow's finance leaders will need, and why empathy might be one of the most underrated qualities in a CFO.
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