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  • The Two Johns
    Welcome to The Two Johns, the investment trust podcast brought to you by the website www.johnbaronportfolios.co.uk. Each month, John Baron joins former Investors' Chronicle editor John Hughman to discuss the big themes dominating the investment landscape and the important issues affecting the sector, while explaining how these are influencing the way the website's ten live investment trust portfolios are being managed.In this episode, John Baron and John Hughman take a look at three sectors where sentiment has displaced fundamentals, and how such special situations in biotech, fintech and specialist mining present an opportunity for investors willing to look past the pessimism. They discuss the special structural factors that have influenced the long-term outperformance of investment companies, before turning their attention to why investors should be wary of paying too much attention to short-term macroeconomics and geopolitics.
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  • Montanaro UK Smaller Companies (MTU)
    Montanaro Asset Management, founded in 1991 by anthropologist-turned-investor Charles Montanaro, has carved a distinctive niche in UK small-cap investment. With a team of 39, including 18 long-serving analysts and fund managers, the firm manages approximately £3 billion in assets. Montanaro’s unconventional background and early experiences in private equity shaped his vision of applying a private equity approach to publicly quoted UK small companies. MTU, launched in 1995, embodies this vision, offering clients access to under-researched, high-quality small-cap companies. Charles stresses the importance of investing in simple, understandable businesses led by trustworthy management, and he remains convinced of the sector’s long-term outperformance, despite recent headwinds.In this exclusive podcast appearance, Charles discusses the challenges UK small caps have faced, from macroeconomic shocks to capital outflows in favour of US mega-cap tech stocks, and why he believes the sector is poised for recovery. He highlights the inefficiencies and lack of research coverage in the small-cap space as opportunities for active managers and shares examples from MTU’s portfolio, including Big Yellow, Cranswick, and Chemring Group. He explains why he prefers boots-on-the-ground research and long-term holding strategies, underscoring his team’s discipline and deep sector expertise. He also critiques structural issues affecting UK equity markets, advocating for regulatory and pension reform to reinvigorate domestic investment, and why a background in anthropology has proved an invaluable tool in understanding the psychology behind small-cap investing.
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  • CVC Income & Growth (CVCG)
    CVCG is an investment company specialising in Europeancorporate debt, with a core focus on senior secured loans and sub-investment grade credit. Its primary objective is to generate a reliable income stream, but it also seeks capital growth by identifying undervalued credit opportunities - bonds and loans trading below par. The trust benefits from a dedicated team of analysts based in London and New York, allowing it to carry out deep credit work and selectively deploy capital where risk-adjusted returns are most attractive. By investing in floating rate debt, which benefits directly from rising base rates, CVCG has been well-positioned for the recent interest rate cycle, and its senior secured position offers a strong buffer in the event of defaults.In this podcast, portfolio manager Pieter Staelens outlines how CVCG has responded to the sharp rise in interest rates, why its focus on mature, cash-generative businesses - particularly in sectors like healthcare and business services - has helped avoid distress, and how geopolitical uncertainty is shaping credit opportunities. He explains how the trust adapts its 50/50 portfolio split between performing credit and opportunistic investments depending on market conditions, and why it continues to avoid volatile or opaque sectors like real estate, automotive, and emerging markets. With yields still in the high single to low double digits and a proven ability to generate top-up dividends, Staelens argues the trust remains well-placed to thrive even as rate cuts begin and economic visibility remains limited.
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  • The Two Johns
    Welcome to The Two Johns, the investment trust podcast brought to you by the website www.johnbaronportfolios.co.uk. Each month, John Baron joins former Investors' Chronicle editor John Hughman to discuss the big themes dominating the investment landscape and the important issues affecting the sector, while explaining how these are influencing the way the website's ten live investment trust portfolios are being managed.In this episode, John Baron and John Hughman delve into the misunderstood world of private debt and why its balance of risk and reward offers an attractive alternative to public debt markets. They also examine the importance of keeping an eye on fees, and why investment trusts are an increasingly competitive choice against other collective vehicles. And they discuss how Trump’s tariff wars are yet another reason to think inflation is likely to remain higher for longer.
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  • The Mercantile Trust (MRC)
    MRC has a long-standing reputation in the UK investment trust sector, having been established in 1884. Its core focus since 1994 has been on generating long-term capital growth and rising dividends from a 70-strong portfolio of UK-listed mid and small-cap companies. The company adopts a quality growth strategy, targeting high-return, competitively advantaged companies trading at attractive valuations. Despite macroeconomic headwinds, such as interest rate volatility and political uncertainty, MRC has delivered robust NAV returns, recently achieving a 14% gain in the financial year ending January 2025.In this podcast, manager Guy Anderson outlines how MRC has navigated tough market conditions through bottom-up stock selection focused on companies generating sold cash flows; why the trust is slightly overweight in UK domestic cyclicals, including housebuilders and retailers, which Anderson believes are undervalued due to a disconnect between public sentiment and economic reality, and why increased conviction in market opportunities means the company’s gearing remains at the higher end of its usual range, while continuing to help it consistently grow its dividend above inflation.
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Previously only available to subscribers of www.johnbaronportfolios.co.uk, you can now listen here to the interviews we’ve conducted with leading investment trust managers, to our regular interviews in future, and to our new monthly podcast (The Two Johns) where John Baron and John Hughman will be discussing the latest investment and sector themes which influence how the website’s 10 live investment trust portfolios achieve a range of risk-adjusted strategies and income levels. The website’s members are notified whenever portfolio changes are made.
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