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Second Nature

Lizzie McLaughlin
Second Nature
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  • Second Nature

    Wuthering Heights, The Witcher, and Bridgerton: Life as a Riding Double with Freddy Steele

    01/03/2026 | 50 mins.
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    It is officially March! ๐ŸŒท The sun has finally made an appearance (though my greenhouse plans are currently on hold thanks to the rain!), and I have been so excited to share this weekโ€™s episode with you.
    A few weeks ago, I was scrolling through social media and saw an incredible video of a rider on the set of the new Wuthering Heights movie. I went down a total rabbit hole researching his work on The Witcher and Bridgerton, and I just knew I had to get him on the show.
    This week, Iโ€™m chatting with horse trainer and performer Freddy Steele. Weโ€™re talking about:
    Meeting Margot Robbie & Jacob Elordi: What are they really like on set?
    Horse Makeup & Wigs: Yes, the horses have hair extensions too! ๐Ÿด๐Ÿ’…
    The "Broken Eggs" Mystery: Freddie reveals the top-secret code name they used on set.
    The "Border Collie" of Horses: Why heโ€™s obsessed with the Lusitano breed.
    If youโ€™re stuck inside hiding from the March rain like me, this is the perfect escape. Itโ€™s a fascinating look at what it actually takes to bring these massive stories to life. Grab a cuppa and dive into the wild world of the Wuthering Heights set on the Moors with usโ€”listen to the episode now!
    Website: www.second-nature.co.uk
    Email us: [email protected]
    Social media: @second_natureuk
    Host: @lizziemuddyheelsmac
  • Second Nature

    Dorset's Big Five - Down In Dorset Episode 2

    27/02/2026 | 1h 11 mins.
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    Following the incredible response to our launch, we are back with the second episode of our Down in Dorset mini-series! This month, Iโ€™m joined once again by my guest co-host, local farmer Tim Gelfs, for a deep dive into the wild side of the county.
    In partnership with Nature Recovery Dorset, we are exploring the delicate balance between productive agriculture and thriving wildlife. From the "Big Five" mammals roaming our fields to the shifting tides of government farming policy, this episode gets to the heart of how Dorset is leading the way in conservation.
    In This Episode: The Big Five & The New Frontier of Farming
    We are joined by two fantastic guests who represent the two halves of the nature recovery puzzle:
    The Ecologistโ€™s Lens: Ian Alexander, an ecologist with over 40 years of experience (Natural England, Dorset Wildlife Trust), shares his passion for species reintroductionโ€”specifically his 20-year journey to bring Beavers back to our waterways.
    The Farmerโ€™s Perspective: James Cousins, a fifth-generation farmer at Tarrant Rawston, manages a 2,000-acre mixed farm. James gives us a candid look at life on a working farm, from the joy of seeing Brown Hares box in the spring to the practical realities of managing deer populations.
    Key Discussion Points:
    Dorsetโ€™s "Big Five": We talk through the status of Deer, Badgers, Foxes, Beavers, and Otters. Ian explains why the Sika deer is so abundant in Purbeck and why the tiny Muntjac is the new kid on the block.
    The Deer Management Debate: Why is culling necessary? James explains how deer management supports his local butchery with sustainable venison, while Ian discusses the impact of overpopulation on woodland regeneration.
    The Post-War Legacy: A look back at how the drive for food security after WWII shaped our landscape, and why we are now shifting toward "public money for public good."
    Farmer Cluster Groups: James highlights the power of "cluster groups"โ€”where local farmers collaborate on carbon capture, soil health, and bird identification to create wildlife corridors across the county.
    Nature Recovery Success Stories: We hear from Tom Monroe (National Landscapes) and Imogen Davenport (Dorset Wildlife Trust) on how collaboration in areas like the Isle of Purbeck is successfully reversing decades of nature decline.
    Down in Dorset episodes are available on the last Friday of every month.ย 
    Which of Dorsetโ€™s "Big Five" is your favourite to spot in the wild? Weโ€™d love to hear your stories! Reach out at [email protected] or find us on social media.
    This podcast mini-series has been produced with help from Nature Recovery Dorset, a Dorset Council led initiative helping communities, landowners and organisations work together to restore nature across Dorset. Any views or opinions expressed are those of the individual speakers and should not be taken as representing Dorset Council.
    Website: www.second-nature.co.uk
    Email us: [email protected]
    Social media: @second_natureuk
    Host: @lizziemuddyheelsmac
  • Second Nature

    Seasons Change: Mind Your Head Week with the Suffolk Farming Community Group

    07/02/2026 | 33 mins.
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    โš ๏ธ TRIGGER WARNING: This episode contains deeply personal discussions regarding mental health, depression, anxiety, and suicide prevention. If you are currently struggling, please consider listening with a friend or reaching out to the resources listed below.
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    Welcome back to your usual episode of Second Nature! I am still pinching myself after seeing us hit #11 on the Apple Podcasts Top 200 for Home and Garden following the release of the Down in Dorset mini-series last week. Honestly, thank you so much for the supportโ€”it means the world to Tim and me.

    This episode is a bit of a whirlwind. Iโ€™m catching you up on my "2026 bingo card" moment, meeting Jeremy Clarkson at his new pub and my recent deep dives into agronomy and wheat nutrition. But more importantly, as we head into Mind Your Head week with Yellow Wellies, weโ€™re opening up a conversation that is incredibly close to my heart.

    A Personal Reflection
    A year ago today, I was in a very different place. Iโ€™m sharing the story of the night I had to call a crisis line, the role my little Corgi, Willow, played in pulling me back to the present, and why I believe it is so vital that we show the "bad days" alongside the highlight reels. I hope that by sharing my own story, I can show that things do get better.
    ย In farming, we know better than anyone that seasons changeโ€”and your headspace can, too.

    The Suffolk Farming Community Group
    This week, Iโ€™m joined by the brilliant Emily Whitmarsh and Ellis Blackmore. After losing a dear friend to suicide, they took action to ensure no one in their local agricultural community felt isolated. We chat about:

    - Moving beyond Young Farmers and the "loneliness" of the tractor cab.

    - The reality of current financial pressures and the recent inheritance tax changes.

    - Why "pub yields" aren't always what they seem.

    Their upcoming monthly meet-up on Friday February 27th at the Gardnerโ€™s Arms, Tostock.
    You can follow Emily and Ellis on Instagram and Facebook at Suffolk Farming Community Group.

    โš ๏ธ Important Note

    This episode contains honest discussions about mental health and suicide. If you are struggling, please don't suffer in silence. Help is available:

    Samaritans: 116 123

    FCN: 03000 111 999

    R.A.B.I: 0800 188 4444

    DPJ Foundation (Wales): 0800 587 4262

    RSABI (Scotland): 0808 1234 555
    N IRELAND: 0800 138 1678

    Text Support: Text HAWKSTONE to 85258

    Connect with the Campaign
    Join the conversation next week using #MindYourHead, #Hope, and #SuicidePrevention.ย 
    Find out more over on: https://www.yellowwellies.org/mind-your-head-9-13-february-2026/
    Website: www.second-nature.co.uk
    Email us: [email protected]
    Social media: @second_natureuk
    Host: @lizziemuddyheelsmac
  • Second Nature

    From Dorset Fields To Dorset Plates - Down In Dorset Episode 1

    30/01/2026 | 53 mins.
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    Welcome to the very first episode of Down in Dorset, a brand-new mini-series brought to you by Second Nature! I am so excited to launch this special project in partnership with Nature Recovery Dorset, as we explore the vital work being done across the county to restore our landscapes and celebrate the incredible food produced right here on our doorstep.
    Joining me as my guest co-host for this series is local farmer Tim Gelfs. Together, weโ€™re heading out to meet the fantastic people doing incredible things for the local area.
    Make sure to mark your calendars, as new episodes of this mini-series will be available on the last Friday of every month!
    In This Episode:ย  From Dorset Fields To Dorset Plates
    In our series premiere, we sit down with two experts who are dedicated to the connection between healthy land and healthy people.
    The Heritage of Watercress: We chat with Tom Amery, CEO of The Watercress Company, based at Waddock Farm, south of Dorchester. Truly a jewel in Dorsetโ€™s crown, Tomโ€™s business is the largest of its kind in Europe, supplying all the major UK retailers. Tom shares the fascinating history of this "super-leaf"โ€”from its Roman roots to how his team currently produces up to 45 tonnes a week for half a million customers across the UK.
    Pesticide-Free Pioneering: Tom discusses the massive shift they made 25 years ago to stop using pesticides entirely, turning their spring-fed gravel beds into thriving habitats for thousands of invertebrates. Itโ€™s a brilliant example of how commercial farming can work hand-in-hand with nature recovery.
    Reconnecting the Next Generation: Claire King, a former headteacher and founder of the Nutrition Advisory Team (NAT), joins us to talk about the vital importance of food education. We discuss her "NutriKit" and why it is so critical for children to understand food provenanceโ€”moving beyond the supermarket shelf to the water, soil, and the people who grow our food.
    Building Resilient Food Systems: We dive into the complexities of modern agriculture and the importance of shortening supply chains to support both the local economy and the environment.
    Meet the Team:
    Lizzie McLaughlin: Your usual host
    Tim Gelfs: Guest co-host and local poultry farmer, bridging the gap between farming reality and consumer tables.
    Tom: A watercress champion managing a unique crop that provides nutrition to half a million customers weekly.
    Claire: An education specialist dedicated to teaching the nitty-gritty of health, provenance, and sustainability.
    This series is all about how we can help nature recover while still producing world-class food. Whether you're a Dorset local or a food lover from further afield, there is so much to learn from these incredible guests.
    What does "nature recovery" mean to you? Get in touch at [email protected] or find me on social media at @LizzieMuddyHeelsMac.
    This podcast mini-series has been produced with help from Nature Recovery Dorset, a Dorset Council led initiative helping communities, landowners and organisations work together to restore nature across Dorset. Any views or opinions expressed are those of the individual speakers and should not be taken as representing Dorset Council.
    Website: www.second-nature.co.uk
    Email us: [email protected]
    Social media: @second_natureuk
    Host: @lizziemuddyheelsmac
  • Second Nature

    ๐ŸŽ„ A Sensational Christmas Special: Turkeys, Sandwiches & Making It Big!

    13/12/2025 | 48 mins.
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    Welcome back! With December in full swing, I'm getting into the festive spirit the best way I know how: talking food! This week, we're diving into the history of the classic British Christmas turkey and getting advice from two incredible, successful guests.
    ๐Ÿฅช The Social Media King: Fraser of Sensational Sandwiches
    I head down to London to celebrate the launch of my good friend Fraser's (Sensational Sandwiches) first-ever shop! Fraser has built a massive following (over 1 million on Instagram!) by making incredible, mouth-watering food content. He sits down with me to talk about:
    ๐Ÿ”‘ The secret to making it big on social media and turning a creative passion into a real-life business.
    ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ Why saying "YES" to opportunities is the only way to succeed.
    ๐Ÿ— Last year's unusual Christmas-time sandwichย 
    ๐Ÿฆƒ The Turkey Expert: Kate Martin from Treeway Farm
    Next, I catch up with Kate Martin from Treeway Farm, first-generation farmers who supply thousands of turkeys for Christmas dinners across the UK. Kate shares the incredible, year-long process of raising these birds and the challenges the industry faces. Learn about:
    ๐Ÿ—“๏ธ Why their Christmas prep starts all the way back in February.
    ๐Ÿณ The best way to cook your turkey (Kate shares the ultimate secret for a juicy bird, and yes, we talk about my disastrous defrosting methods!).
    ๐Ÿฆƒ The 500-year history of turkey being the centerpiece of the British Christmas table.
    I hope you have a wonderful holiday season, wherever you are and whatever you're eating! Let me know if you'll be having turkey on your dinner this year!
    Website: www.second-nature.co.uk
    Email us: [email protected]
    Social media: @second_natureuk
    Host: @lizziemuddyheelsmac

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Celebrating the seasons with farming stories, garden tips & homegrown recipes ๐Ÿšœ๐ŸŒฑ๐Ÿ… Join award-winning podcaster, Lizzie McLaughlin and her corgi Willow, for a new podcast episode every Friday ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ๐Ÿ‘‡Instagram: @second_natureukHost: @lizziemuddyheelsmacwww.second-nature.co.uk
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