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Sisters In Sobriety

Sonia Kahlon and Kathleen Killen
Sisters In Sobriety
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    When Family Is the Source of the Trauma With Dr. Sherrie

    09/03/2026 | 43 mins.
    Licensed clinical psychologist and bestselling author Dr. Sherrie Campbell joins us for a powerful conversation about toxic family dynamics, emotional abuse, and the complicated path toward family estrangement. In this episode, Sonia and Kathleen explore how unhealthy family relationships can shape self-worth, boundaries, and coping mechanisms—including substance use—and how women can begin to reclaim their lives.

    Dr. Campbell is a nationally recognized expert on family estrangement, author of Adult Survivors of Toxic Family Members, a TEDx speaker, and host of the top 1% podcast Sherapy Sessions: Cutting Toxic Family Ties. Together, they unpack the realities of emotionally abusive parenting, boundary setting, and the courage it takes to choose healing.

    The conversation explores difficult but deeply relatable questions: What actually qualifies as emotional abuse in a family system? Why do so many adult children struggle to recognize toxic dynamics while they’re living inside them? How do manipulation, triangulation, guilt, and silent treatment shape a child’s development—and how do those patterns follow people into adulthood? The episode also examines how family trauma can intersect with coping behaviors like alcohol use, why estrangement is often misunderstood, and how protective distance can become an act of self-respect rather than rejection.

    Dr. Campbell shares parts of her own story of growing up in a deeply dysfunctional family system and the decades-long process that ultimately led her to cut contact with her mother. She walks through the moment that finally broke the cycle, the years of boundary setting that preceded it, and the grief that often accompanies estrangement. The conversation closes with reflections on healing, journaling as a lifelong practice, and what it means to build a chosen life outside of family dysfunction.

    This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

    Episode Highlights
    00:00 – Introducing Dr. Sherrie Campbell and the topic of toxic family relationships
    02:30 – Why family estrangement is often misunderstood
    04:10 – The difference between single-incident conflict and chronic family dysfunction
    05:40 – Why parents are responsible for repairing relationships with their children
    07:20 – How boundaries are meant to preserve relationships, not destroy them
    08:10 – The common behaviors of emotionally abusive parents
    10:15 – Why emotional abuse can be difficult to recognize inside families
    11:00 – A personal example of subtle emotional humiliation
    12:30 – Emotional abuse vs. emotional neglect explained
    14:00 – What “protective estrangement” really means
    15:30 – The metaphor of the house, yard, and fence for setting boundaries
    18:30 – Why estrangement usually follows decades of boundary violations
    21:00 – How long many adult children try to repair relationships before cutting ties
    24:00 – The intersection of childhood trauma and substance use
    25:00 – Why people turn to alcohol or other coping behaviors
    27:30 – Lessons learned from working with addiction recovery groups
    29:30 – What changes internally when someone gets sober
    31:00 – Why addiction recovery requires responsibility and self-respect
    33:30 – The first steps toward healing from family trauma
    36:30 – Rebuilding self-trust after toxic parenting
    39:00 – Dr. Campbell’s personal healing practices and journaling ritual
    41:00 – Breaking generational cycles through love and conscious parenting

    Dr. Sherrie's Links
    Link to TEDx talk: https://youtu.be/deyHwDkG7oc?si=vy7p-wD6MvgwCfR-
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.sherrie/

    SIS Links
    💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen
    📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email
    📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram
    🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast
    📸 Kathleen’s Instagram
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    Midlife Isn’t a Crisis — It’s a Comeback With Heather Francis

    02/03/2026 | 48 mins.
    Sonia and Kathleen sit down with Heather Francis, host of the Midlife Moves Podcast. Heather is an entrepreneur and mom of four who brings a lived-experience perspective to conversations around identity, self-trust, and personal growth. She speaks as a woman who has learned, often through trial and error, what it means to evolve, recalibrate, and choose herself more intentionally.

    Together, they explore what really happens in our forties and fifties: shifting identities, perimenopause, strength training, sleep disruption, protein intake, and the unexpected grief that can come when children grow up and roles change. Together, they unpack how to move through midlife with intention rather than fear—and how movement, community, and curiosity can help women feel strong, clear, and empowered in this next chapter.

    The conversation weaves through questions many women are quietly asking: Why does anxiety spike in perimenopause? Why does sleep suddenly fall apart at 1:00 AM? Why does cardio stop working the way it used to? How much protein do women actually need in midlife? What role do magnesium, creatine, and recovery days play in hormonal health? How do friendships, identity, and self-definition evolve when the “mom” role begins to shift?

    Heather shares practical insights around strength training versus excessive cardio, mobility work, rest days, over-exercising, wearable technology, alcohol’s impact on sleep, sugar spikes, and the importance of fueling the body with whole-food protein sources. The discussion touches on cognitive health in midlife, research around creatine for women, bloodwork-guided supplementation, anxiety management, and why connection is foundational for both brain health and emotional resilience. Rather than extreme reinvention, the theme becomes small, intentional adjustments that support longevity, muscle preservation, sleep quality, and overall wellness.

    Heather opens up about her identity crisis when her children began leaving home, the depression that followed, the isolation of rediscovering herself alone, and the courage it took to ask: Who am I beyond caretaker, wife, and mother? The conversation moves into friendship shifts, gym communities, saying yes to coffee dates, and redefining confidence outside of labels. In a powerful closing reflection, Heather offers a reframe for midlife: not as decline, but as possibility—a second act that doesn’t require blowing up your life, just choosing more intentionally within it.

    This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

    Highlights
    00:00 – Introduction to Heather Francis and Midlife Moves
    02:00 – Identity crisis when children grow up
    04:00 – Realizing midlife is a second act, not an ending
    05:00 – Perimenopause conversations we wish existed
    06:00 – Hormones, anxiety, and 1:00 AM wakeups
    07:00 – Why movement helped anxiety more than medication
    08:00 – Cardio vs. strength training in midlife
    09:00 – What strength training actually looks like
    13:00 – Yoga, mobility, and emotional release
    15:00 – Signs you may be over-exercising
    17:00 – Magnesium, meditation, and sleep hygiene
    19:00 – Alcohol’s impact on sleep quality
    20:00 – Wearables, tracking, and number obsession
    21:00 – Sugar’s effect on sleep and recovery
    23:00 – Nutrition, fueling, and hormone support
    27:00 – Protein myths and whole-food sources
    34:00 – Creatine, cognitive health, and supplements
    38:00 – Friendship shifts and loneliness in midlife
    44:00 – Redefining identity beyond “mom”
    46:00 – The message of midlife: possibility and intentional change

    Heather's Links
    https://www.instagram.com/themidlifemovespodcast/
    midlifemoves.co

    SIS Links
    💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen
    📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email
    📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram
    🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast
    📸 Kathleen’s Instagram
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    AI Journaling With Sean Dadashi

    23/02/2026 | 48 mins.
    Sonia sits down with Sean Dadashi, co-founder of Rosebud, an AI-guided journaling app built to deepen self-reflection, emotional awareness, and intentional healing. Together, they explore how journaling can move beyond venting and become a powerful tool for insight — helping you recognize emotional patterns, understand triggers, and reshape the internal narratives that shape sobriety and personal growth.

    The conversation expands into the evolving role of AI in mental health and self-development. They discuss how guided prompts, voice journaling, emotional tagging, and pattern recognition can make reflection more accessible — especially for those intimidated by a blank page. At the same time, they examine the importance of keeping therapy, community, and real human connection at the center of healing, while using technology as a supportive tool rather than a replacement.

    Sonia and Sean also walk through specific journaling practices, including Rose-Bud-Thorn reflections, somatic journaling, gratitude work, boundary-setting exercises, and intention setting. They explore how Rosebud can support therapy preparation, unsent letters, difficult conversations, and voice-based emotional processing.

    Throughout the episode, they highlight how digital journaling can help expand emotional vocabulary, identify recurring behavioral patterns, and deepen therapeutic work between sessions.

    On a more personal note, Sonia shares her love of pen-to-paper journaling — the colored pens, the bedside rituals — and reflects on what it means to shift from analog habits to digital tools in a way that enhances, rather than replaces, the reflective experience.

    This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

    Highlights
    00:00 — Introduction to Sean Dadashi and the mission behind Rosebud
    01:45 — Sean’s early relationship with journaling during family divorce
    04:10 — Moving from handwritten journals to digital reflection
    06:20 — Recognizing emotional and behavioral patterns over time
    08:05 — The “blank page problem” and barriers to starting journaling
    09:40 — How the “Go Deeper” function guides layered reflection
    11:30 — AI summaries, emotional tagging, and weekly reports
    13:05 — Metrics, character tracking, and narrative insights
    14:10 — Naming emotions and therapist-informed AI design
    15:20 — How Rosebud differs from generic chatbots
    16:40 — AI memory and long-term pattern recognition
    17:25 — Asking big-picture life questions through journal history
    18:50 — Year-end reflection archetypes and narrative mapping
    20:10 — AI personas: nurturing vs. direct reflection styles
    21:05 — Preventing AI from replacing human connection
    22:30 — Platform limits and ethical guardrails
    24:00 — Crisis response and safety considerations
    28:40 — Using journaling alongside therapy and coaching
    31:10 — Preparing for therapy sessions through reflection insights
    32:15 — Pen-and-paper vs. digital journaling debate
    34:05 — Voice journaling and emotional expression
    36:10 — Importing handwritten journals via photo transcription
    38:15 — Rose-Bud-Thorn framework and evening reflections
    40:20 — Somatic journaling and body-based awareness
    41:10 — Letter writing, boundary setting, and hard conversations
    43:00 — Facilitating real-life conversations using AI support
    44:05 — Intention setting and future-self visualization
    45:50 — Creating mantras and symbolic yearly totems
    46:40 — Building sustainable daily reflection practices
    47:30 — Closing thoughts and episode wrap-up

    Rosebud https://my.rosebud.app/

    SIS Links
    💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen
    📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email
    📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram
    🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast
    📸 Kathleen’s Instagram
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    From High-Functioning To Whole Again With Marci Hopkins

    16/02/2026 | 58 mins.
    In this episode, Sonia sits down with TV personality, recovery advocate, and author Marci Hopkins to unpack the layered journey from trauma and addiction to emotional sobriety and self-trust. As the host of the award-winning talk show Wake Up with Marci and author of Chaos to Clarity, Marci brings both lived experience and professional insight to the conversation. Together, they explore healing, resilience, and what it really takes to rebuild a life after alcohol.

    The discussion moves through the experiences that shaped Marci’s relationship with alcohol, from early childhood trauma and family addiction to high-functioning drinking in adulthood. Themes of generational cycles, emotional suppression, validation-seeking relationships, and the normalization of alcohol surface throughout the conversation. The episode also examines the slippery slope from social drinking to dependence, how denial shows up, and the internal bargaining that often delays change.

    Marci shares how practices like affirmations, forgiveness work, boundary setting, and cognitive “interrupters” can begin to rewire negative thought patterns.

    Marci walks through the defining moments that led to her final surrender — including the DUI that forced her to confront the reality of her drinking. She reflects on motherhood, marriage, career pressure, and the emotional reckoning that followed. The conversation closes on her path to advocacy, her commitment to breaking stigma, and how turning pain into purpose became central to her healing.

    This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

    Episode Highlights
    00:01:00 – Marci’s introduction and recovery advocacy work
    00:03:00 – Childhood trauma and the first experiences of abuse
    00:05:00 – Living with her grandparents and early instability
    00:08:00 – Abuse and lack of maternal protection
    00:10:00 – Perfectionism and controlling the external image
    00:12:00 – Teen drinking, validation, and blackout weekends
    00:14:00 – Escaping home life through relationships
    00:16:00 – Party culture, drugs, and early adulthood
    00:17:00 – DUIs and hitting early warning signs
    00:20:00 – Using appearance and relationships for power
    00:23:00 – Career rise in television and media
    00:25:00 – Motherhood, ambition, and mounting pressure
    00:26:00 – Alcohol as “liquid courage” for auditions
    00:27:00 – Hiding drinking and increasing dependence
    00:28:00 – The failed attempt to moderate
    00:29:00 – The day of her final drink
    00:31:00 – DUI arrest and confrontation with reality
    00:33:00 – Surrender and return to AA
    00:38:00 – Emotional sobriety and healing trauma
    00:55:00 – Breaking stigma and normalizing recovery conversations

    Marci's Links
    Instagram
    YouTube

    SIS Links
    💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen
    📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email
    📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram
    🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast
    📸 Kathleen’s Instagram
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    Why You Can’t “Just Move On” From Trauma With Amber T

    09/02/2026 | 53 mins.
    In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia is joined by Amber Trejo, a licensed marriage and family therapist and certified clinical trauma professional who specializes in complex childhood trauma and the family system. Amber is also a wife and mom of three on her own healing journey, and today she helps Sonia unpack how childhood wounds quietly shape adult life — and what it looks like to move from survival mode into safety, self-regulation, and connection.

    Sonia and Amber explore the ways complex trauma can show up long after childhood — through hypervigilance, perfectionism, emotional shutdown, and repeating relationship patterns. They discuss why so many people struggle to even name what happened to them, especially when emotional neglect, invalidation, or silent treatment were normalized.

    Amber shares a nervous-system-centered approach to healing, weaving in polyvagal theory, cues of safety versus danger, parts work, somatic grounding, and EMDR. The conversation touches on how trauma lives in both the brain and the body, and why healing requires more than simply intellectualizing the past — it’s about building real capacity for regulation, curiosity, and connection in the present.

    In the personal story thread, Sonia opens up about having very few childhood memories, the fear of “making it up,” and the complicated ways trauma can surface later in adulthood, especially in relationships and family dynamics. Together, they connect trauma work to sobriety — exploring addiction as a form of nervous system coping, why white-knuckling often isn’t enough, and how early recovery sometimes means doing whatever it takes to get through the hardest moments with compassion.

    This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

    00:00 — Amber Trejo joins Sonia to discuss trauma healing
    01:00 — Amber shares her own childhood trauma and path to therapy
    03:00 — Trauma resurfacing through marriage and motherhood
    04:00 — Complex trauma vs single-event PTSD
    05:00 — Emotional neglect as an overlooked trauma wound
    07:00 — Why complex trauma shows up most in relationships
    08:00 — Sonia’s “grimy breaker” metaphor for trauma patterns
    10:00 — Minimizing pain: “but it could be worse”
    12:00 — Shame, invalidation, and not trusting emotions
    14:00 — Perfectionism as a survival strategy
    15:00 — Parts work and inner child healing
    17:00 — Intellectualizing vs healing in the body
    18:00 — Sonia on missing childhood memories
    20:00 — “What if I’m making it up?” as a trauma hallmark
    22:00 — Safety and resourcing before deeper trauma work
    25:00 — Cues of danger, passive aggression, and hypervigilance
    31:00 — Ventral vagal state: curiosity as a sign of safety
    33:00 — Addiction as nervous system regulation
    38:00 — Alcohol as relief before it becomes the problem
    45:00 — Early sobriety: small realistic coping tools
    49:00 — Creativity, aliveness, and building daily regulation practices

    Amber's Links:
    Instagram:
    https://www.instagram.com/integrativetraumatherapist?igsh=MWpvdTI5emVyZzU4aA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr
    Course for parents with trauma:
    https://stan.store/Integrativetraumatherapist/p/-sjwt4r2x
    Website:
    https://www.theintegrativetraumatherapist.com/

    SIS Links
    💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen
    📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email
    📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram
    🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast
    📸 Kathleen’s Instagram
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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About Sisters In Sobriety

You know that sinking feeling when you wake up with a hangover and think: “I’m never doing this again”? We’ve all been there. But what happens when you follow through? Sonia Kahlon and Kathleen Killen can tell you, because they did it! They went from sisters-in-law, to Sisters in Sobriety. In this podcast, Sonia and Kathleen invite you into their world, as they navigate the ups and downs of sobriety, explore stories of personal growth and share their journey of wellness and recovery. Get ready for some real, honest conversations about sobriety, addiction, and everything in between. Episodes will cover topics such as: reaching emotional sobriety, how to make the decision to get sober, adopting a more mindful lifestyle, socializing without alcohol, and much more. Whether you’re sober-curious, seeking inspiration and self-care through sobriety, or embracing the alcohol-free lifestyle already… Tune in for a weekly dose of vulnerability, mutual support and much needed comic relief. Together... Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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