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The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau
The Symbolic World
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    448 - Fr. Josiah Trenham - How to Integrate Faith, Family, and Nation

    29/04/2026 | 31 mins.
    I sat down with Fr. Josiah Trenham to talk about something that’s becoming harder to ignore: how to properly order your loyalties.
    We discussed the tension between faith, nation, family, and personal identity, and what happens when those come into conflict. 

    Join us at the Symbolic World Summit, where Fr. Josiah will be one of the keynote speakers. 
    May 14-16 | Ohio | Keynote speakers: Jonathan Pageau, Fr. Josiah Trenham, Mary Harrington, Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin, Kale Zelden, Annie Crawford, and Heather Pollington
    Buy your tickets: https://symbolicworldsummit.com/ 

    YouTube version of this episode: https://youtu.be/Ugt7XnbH0tQ

    🔓 Become a patron to support us and unlock exclusive monthly symbolism content: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe
    💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com
    🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau  

    🎧 Listen to and review The Symbolic World podcast:
    -Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0gI8bUwPtT3gkduHqNh6M5
    -Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-symbolic-world/id1386867488 

    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ 
    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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    447 - Annie Crawford - The Cosmic Alchemy of That Hideous Strength

    21/04/2026 | 29 mins.
    In this conversation with Annie Crawford, we explore the role of alchemy in C.S. Lewis’ That Hideous Strength. While alchemy is often dismissed as occult or irrelevant, Lewis uses its symbolism in a precise and meaningful way.

    We look at how the novel presents two forms of transformation: one rooted in control, technology, and disembodied power, and the other in sacrifice, order, and participation in the divine. This distinction speaks directly to how we understand modern technology, including AI.
    The discussion also touches on story structure, the nature of symbolic thinking, and how transformation is embedded in narrative itself.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/7WqrbWNHJBs

    Join us at the Symbolic World Summit | May 14-16 | Ohio | Keynote speakers: Jonathan Pageau, Fr. Josiah Trenham, Mary Harrington, Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin, Kale Zelden, Annie Crawford, and Heather Pollington
    Buy your tickets: https://symbolicworldsummit.com/ 

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    🔓 Become a patron to support us and unlock exclusive monthly symbolism content: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe
    💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com
    🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau  

    🎧 Please review The Symbolic World podcast:
    -Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0gI8bUwPtT3gkduHqNh6M5
    -Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-symbolic-world/id1386867488 

    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ 
    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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    446 - Universal History: How Kabbalah Shaped America: the Land of the End

    18/04/2026 | 59 mins.
    This is the final episode of our Universal History series on the American Religion. Deacon Seraphim Rohlin and I look at the religious ideas behind the American project, especially the influence of Kabbalah and the search for a “pure” and universal mystical tradition. We trace how early Protestants, thinkers like Thomas Jefferson, and figures like Ezra Stiles engaged with Jewish mysticism as part of their attempt to understand and shape America’s role in the universal history.

    - Watch the YouTube version of this episode: https://youtu.be/A563i-jrZs0
    - Watch the rest of this series here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVX4HUUPrIY_U0msyBRVpwCI_srzn3tjL
    - Universal History playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVX4HUUPrIY_M2uZP3yW6EEiod3fGD6FD

    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Coming Up
    01:10 - Intro Music
    01:35 - Introduction & Framing the Topic  
    02:28 - Jefferson, Adams & “Pure Religion”  
    05:23 - Kabbalah and the Founding Fathers  
    07:48 - Puritans, Quakers & Early American Mysticism  
    11:11 - Adam Kadmon & Christian Kabbalah  
    16:18 - George Keith & Quaker Debates  
    20:18 - Sabatianism & Messianic Movements  
    26:03 - Apocalyptic Expectations in Early America  
    29:44 - Judah Monis & Kabbalah in Harvard  
    33:48 - Kabbalah Used to Defend the Trinity  
    35:59 - Ezra Stiles & America as the New Israel  
    39:06 - America as the “New World” in Prophecy  
    42:49 - Loss of Christian Mysticism & Turning to Kabbalah  
    48:33 - America as the Promised Land Idea  
    51:50 - Is America the “End of the World”?  
    54:54 - The Contradictions of American Culture  
    58:10 - Final Reflections on America’s Spiritual Identity  

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    Join us at the Symbolic World Summit | May 14-16 | Ohio | Keynote speakers: Jonathan Pageau, Fr. Josiah Trenham, Mary Harrington, Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin, Kale Zelden, Annie Crawford, and Heather Pollington.
    Buy your tickets: https://symbolicworldsummit.com/ 

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    NEW COURSE: Plutarch: Symbolism in History with Pavel Shchelin
    The problem with history is that you are in it. Plutarch teaches us to read power symbolically—asking "whom does the hero serve?" to predict leadership patterns before they play out.
    Presenter: Pavel Shchelin
    Duration: 8 weeks studying the lives of Greeks and Roman Lycurgus, Alcibiades, Lysander, Pompey, Caesar, and Octavian –as living patterns, not dead men.
    Live classes are on Wednesdays at 4-6pm Eastern Time, starting March 18th through May 6th, 2026.
    Price: $180 USD - Involved patrons can get a 10% discount. Apply your code at checkout. 
    Register now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/plutarch-symbolism-in-history 

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    🔓 Become a patron to support us and unlock exclusive monthly symbolism content: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe
    💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com
    🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau  
    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ 
    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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    445 - Understanding the Icons of Holy Week

    10/04/2026 | 29 mins.
    This is a repost of a past video where I discussed the icons of Holy Week in the Orthodox Church and how they relate to each other as a unified symbolic pattern. Have a blessed Pascha.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/h55O4Kxs6tU

    Join us at the Symbolic World Summit | May 14-16 | Ohio | Keynote speakers: Jonathan Pageau, Fr. Josiah Trenham, Mary Harrington, Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin, Kale Zelden, Annie Crawford, and Heather Pollington
    Buy your tickets: https://symbolicworldsummit.com/ 

    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Start / Introduction
    00:48 - Palm Sunday (Entry into Jerusalem)
    05:34 - Holy Monday (Bridegroom / Crown of Thorns)
    07:54 - Holy Tuesday (Wise & Foolish Virgins)
    10:15 - Holy Wednesday (Washing of the Feet)
    12:37 - Holy Thursday (Mystical Supper)
    14:36 - Holy Friday (Crucifixion)
    19:27 - Holy Saturday (Descent into Hades / Anastasis)
    21:47 - Resurrection & Empty Tomb
    24:09 - Burial & Laying in the Tomb
    26:20 - Conclusion / Meaning of Holy Week

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    NEW COURSE: Plutarch: Symbolism in History with Pavel Shchelin
    The problem with history is that you are in it. Plutarch teaches us to read power symbolically—asking "whom does the hero serve?" to predict leadership patterns before they play out.
    Presenter: Pavel Shchelin
    Duration: 8 weeks studying the lives of Greeks and Roman Lycurgus, Alcibiades, Lysander, Pompey, Caesar, and Octavian –as living patterns, not dead men.
    Live classes are on Wednesdays at 4-6pm Eastern Time, starting March 18th through May 6th, 2026.
    Price: $180 USD - Involved patrons can get a 10% discount. Apply your code at checkout. 
    Register now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/plutarch-symbolism-in-history 
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    🔓 Become a patron to support us and unlock exclusive monthly symbolism content: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe
    💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com
    🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau  

    🎧 Listen to and review The Symbolic World podcast:
    -Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0gI8bUwPtT3gkduHqNh6M5
    -Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-symbolic-world/id1386867488 
    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ 

    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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    444 - "FATHER": A symbolic analysis of Kanye West’s song and music video

    08/04/2026 | 29 mins.
    With the release of Ye’s new album, Bully, many have asked about the music video for the song called “Father.” While the video is surreal and AI generated, it is not without meaning or structure. If you pay attention to broader, context, patterns, and the relationships between images, a coherent meaning begins to emerge.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/BG2psRcPH7o
    My review of Ye's album Bully: https://x.com/PageauJonathan/status/2038374009382097289
    Ye: Father music video: https://youtu.be/HBMy-y2wb4I?si=OKlf4_0c8y1zJwV1

    SUMMIT 2026: Join us for the Symbolic World Summit 2026! Speakers include Fr. Josiah Trenham, Mary Harrington, Jonathan Pageau, Dn. Seraphim Rohlin, and others.
    Date: May 14-16
    Place: Broadview Heights, OH
    Don't miss out! https://symbolicworldsummit.com/

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    NEW COURSE: Plutarch: Symbolism in History with Pavel Shchelin
    The problem with history is that you are in it. Plutarch teaches us to read power symbolically—asking "whom does the hero serve?" to predict leadership patterns before they play out.
    Presenter: Pavel Shchelin
    Duration: 8 weeks studying the lives of Greeks and Roman Lycurgus, Alcibiades, Lysander, Pompey, Caesar, and Octavian –as living patterns, not dead men.
    Live classes are on Wednesdays at 4-6pm Eastern Time, starting March 18th through May 6th, 2026.
    Price: $180 USD - Involved patrons can get a 10% discount. Apply your code at checkout. 
    Register now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/plutarch-symbolism-in-history 
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    🔓 Become a patron to support us and unlock exclusive monthly symbolism content: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe
    💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com
    🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau  

    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ 
    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/

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Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.
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