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The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau
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    446 - Universal History: How Kabbalah Shaped America: the Land of the End

    18/04/2026 | 59 mins.
    This is the final episode of our Universal History series on the American Religion. Deacon Seraphim Rohlin and I look at the religious ideas behind the American project, especially the influence of Kabbalah and the search for a “pure” and universal mystical tradition. We trace how early Protestants, thinkers like Thomas Jefferson, and figures like Ezra Stiles engaged with Jewish mysticism as part of their attempt to understand and shape America’s role in the universal history.

    - Watch the YouTube version of this episode: https://youtu.be/A563i-jrZs0
    - Watch the rest of this series here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVX4HUUPrIY_U0msyBRVpwCI_srzn3tjL
    - Universal History playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVX4HUUPrIY_M2uZP3yW6EEiod3fGD6FD

    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Coming Up
    01:10 - Intro Music
    01:35 - Introduction & Framing the Topic  
    02:28 - Jefferson, Adams & “Pure Religion”  
    05:23 - Kabbalah and the Founding Fathers  
    07:48 - Puritans, Quakers & Early American Mysticism  
    11:11 - Adam Kadmon & Christian Kabbalah  
    16:18 - George Keith & Quaker Debates  
    20:18 - Sabatianism & Messianic Movements  
    26:03 - Apocalyptic Expectations in Early America  
    29:44 - Judah Monis & Kabbalah in Harvard  
    33:48 - Kabbalah Used to Defend the Trinity  
    35:59 - Ezra Stiles & America as the New Israel  
    39:06 - America as the “New World” in Prophecy  
    42:49 - Loss of Christian Mysticism & Turning to Kabbalah  
    48:33 - America as the Promised Land Idea  
    51:50 - Is America the “End of the World”?  
    54:54 - The Contradictions of American Culture  
    58:10 - Final Reflections on America’s Spiritual Identity  

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    Join us at the Symbolic World Summit | May 14-16 | Ohio | Keynote speakers: Jonathan Pageau, Fr. Josiah Trenham, Mary Harrington, Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin, Kale Zelden, Annie Crawford, and Heather Pollington.
    Buy your tickets: https://symbolicworldsummit.com/ 

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    NEW COURSE: Plutarch: Symbolism in History with Pavel Shchelin
    The problem with history is that you are in it. Plutarch teaches us to read power symbolically—asking "whom does the hero serve?" to predict leadership patterns before they play out.
    Presenter: Pavel Shchelin
    Duration: 8 weeks studying the lives of Greeks and Roman Lycurgus, Alcibiades, Lysander, Pompey, Caesar, and Octavian –as living patterns, not dead men.
    Live classes are on Wednesdays at 4-6pm Eastern Time, starting March 18th through May 6th, 2026.
    Price: $180 USD - Involved patrons can get a 10% discount. Apply your code at checkout. 
    Register now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/plutarch-symbolism-in-history 

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    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
  • The Symbolic World

    445 - Understanding the Icons of Holy Week

    10/04/2026 | 29 mins.
    This is a repost of a past video where I discussed the icons of Holy Week in the Orthodox Church and how they relate to each other as a unified symbolic pattern. Have a blessed Pascha.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/h55O4Kxs6tU

    Join us at the Symbolic World Summit | May 14-16 | Ohio | Keynote speakers: Jonathan Pageau, Fr. Josiah Trenham, Mary Harrington, Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin, Kale Zelden, Annie Crawford, and Heather Pollington
    Buy your tickets: https://symbolicworldsummit.com/ 

    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Start / Introduction
    00:48 - Palm Sunday (Entry into Jerusalem)
    05:34 - Holy Monday (Bridegroom / Crown of Thorns)
    07:54 - Holy Tuesday (Wise & Foolish Virgins)
    10:15 - Holy Wednesday (Washing of the Feet)
    12:37 - Holy Thursday (Mystical Supper)
    14:36 - Holy Friday (Crucifixion)
    19:27 - Holy Saturday (Descent into Hades / Anastasis)
    21:47 - Resurrection & Empty Tomb
    24:09 - Burial & Laying in the Tomb
    26:20 - Conclusion / Meaning of Holy Week

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    NEW COURSE: Plutarch: Symbolism in History with Pavel Shchelin
    The problem with history is that you are in it. Plutarch teaches us to read power symbolically—asking "whom does the hero serve?" to predict leadership patterns before they play out.
    Presenter: Pavel Shchelin
    Duration: 8 weeks studying the lives of Greeks and Roman Lycurgus, Alcibiades, Lysander, Pompey, Caesar, and Octavian –as living patterns, not dead men.
    Live classes are on Wednesdays at 4-6pm Eastern Time, starting March 18th through May 6th, 2026.
    Price: $180 USD - Involved patrons can get a 10% discount. Apply your code at checkout. 
    Register now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/plutarch-symbolism-in-history 
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    🔓 Become a patron to support us and unlock exclusive monthly symbolism content: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe
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    🎧 Listen to and review The Symbolic World podcast:
    -Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0gI8bUwPtT3gkduHqNh6M5
    -Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-symbolic-world/id1386867488 
    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ 

    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
  • The Symbolic World

    444 - "FATHER": A symbolic analysis of Kanye West’s song and music video

    08/04/2026 | 29 mins.
    With the release of Ye’s new album, Bully, many have asked about the music video for the song called “Father.” While the video is surreal and AI generated, it is not without meaning or structure. If you pay attention to broader, context, patterns, and the relationships between images, a coherent meaning begins to emerge.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/BG2psRcPH7o
    My review of Ye's album Bully: https://x.com/PageauJonathan/status/2038374009382097289
    Ye: Father music video: https://youtu.be/HBMy-y2wb4I?si=OKlf4_0c8y1zJwV1

    SUMMIT 2026: Join us for the Symbolic World Summit 2026! Speakers include Fr. Josiah Trenham, Mary Harrington, Jonathan Pageau, Dn. Seraphim Rohlin, and others.
    Date: May 14-16
    Place: Broadview Heights, OH
    Don't miss out! https://symbolicworldsummit.com/

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    NEW COURSE: Plutarch: Symbolism in History with Pavel Shchelin
    The problem with history is that you are in it. Plutarch teaches us to read power symbolically—asking "whom does the hero serve?" to predict leadership patterns before they play out.
    Presenter: Pavel Shchelin
    Duration: 8 weeks studying the lives of Greeks and Roman Lycurgus, Alcibiades, Lysander, Pompey, Caesar, and Octavian –as living patterns, not dead men.
    Live classes are on Wednesdays at 4-6pm Eastern Time, starting March 18th through May 6th, 2026.
    Price: $180 USD - Involved patrons can get a 10% discount. Apply your code at checkout. 
    Register now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/plutarch-symbolism-in-history 
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    🔓 Become a patron to support us and unlock exclusive monthly symbolism content: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe
    💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com
    🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau  

    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ 
    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
  • The Symbolic World

    443 - Kale Zelden - There’s Still Time to Read the Great Books

    01/04/2026 | 1h 4 mins.
    Kale Zelden is a literature teacher and writer and in this video he joins me to discuss reading, the "Great books", and what it means to recover the reading tradition in a modern context. We talk about how to encounter old texts, what reading can contribute to our lives, and how to approach authors like Homer, Dante, and Shakespeare without reducing them to modern assumptions. We also explore the limits of the novel, modernism, postmodernism, irony, and the essential rediscovery of the epic.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/9zps7RIov44

    Kale’s Substack, The Underneath: https://kalezelden.substack.com/

    Join us at the Symbolic World Summit | May 14-16 | Ohio | Keynote speakers: Jonathan Pageau, Fr. Josiah Trenham, Mary Harrington, Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin, Kale Zelden, Annie Crawford, and Heather Pollington
    Buy your tickets: https://symbolicworldsummit.com/ 

    Learn more about Pavel Shchelin's phenomenal course on Plutarch, Live now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/plutarch-symbolism-in-history

    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00 - Coming up
    01:07 - Intro music
    01:32 - Introduction
    02:09 - The state of education
    07:30 - First of all
    10:47 - The power of analogy
    13:11 - Select your curriculum
    21:05 - What is canon?
    33:24 - What are we moving towards
    39:20 - Allegory
    43:47 - What is modernism?
    47:50 - Great books program
    53:24 - What is the epic?

    BOOKS MENTIONED IN THIS DISCUSSION:
    00:04:45
     Augustine — Confessions — Spiritual autobiography, early Christian thought
     Plato — Dialogues — Philosophy of truth, justice, knowledge
     Aristotle — (various works) — Ethics, logic, metaphysics
     Church Fathers — (various writings) — Foundations of Christian theology
    00:06:20
     Anne Rice — (novels) — Modern popular fiction
     Shakespeare — (general works) — Foundational drama
     Beowulf — Anonymous — Old English epic poem
    00:06:49
     Plato — Dialogues — Rediscovered philosophical texts
    00:07:32
     Shakespeare — Hamlet — Tragedy of revenge and doubt
     Dante — Divine Comedy — Vision of Hell, Purgatory, Heaven
     Chaucer — Canterbury Tales — Medieval storytelling
     Mary Shelley — Frankenstein — Creation and responsibility
     Milton — Paradise Lost — Epic of the Fall
    00:13:55
     Kerouac — On the Road — Modern freedom and experience
     Camus — (e.g. The Stranger) — Existential philosophy
    00:14:31
     Homer — Iliad, Odyssey — Foundational epics
     Plato — Apology, Republic — Justice and philosophy
     Shakespeare —
    Romeo and Juliet — Tragic love
    Julius Caesar — Politics and betrayal
    Macbeth — Ambition and guilt
    A Midsummer Night’s Dream — Comedy and illusion
    King Lear — Suffering and authority
    Hamlet — Existential tragedy
    The Tempest — Reconciliation
    00:16:21
     Dostoevsky — Crime and Punishment — Guilt and redemption
     Dostoevsky — The Brothers Karamazov — Faith and morality
    00:21:31
     Voyage of St. Brendan — Medieval Christian voyage
     Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius — Apocalyptic text
     The Golden Legend — Jacobus de Voragine — Saints’ lives
    00:21:58
     Cervantes — Don Quixote — Satire of chivalry, early novel
    00:22:51
     Jane Austen — Pride and Prejudice — Social psychology
    00:23:59
     Milton — Paradise Lost — (revisited, epic psychology)
    00:26:11
     Faulkner — (novels) — Fragmented modern storytelling
    00:33:41
     C.S. Lewis — On Stories — Defense of story over psychology
     C.S. Lewis — Abolition of Man — Critique of modern values
     C.S. Lewis — Miracles — Defense of the supernatural
    00:37:05
     Sondheim — Into the Woods — Modern fairy tale deconstruction
    00:38:55
     Rabelais — Gargantua and Pantagruel — Satirical, playful text
    00:44:06
     Melville — Moby-Dick — Epic-scale novel
     Hemingway — The Sun Also Rises — Modern disillusionment
    00:49:42
     Ovid — Metamorphoses — Mythic transformations
    00:46:13 (thinkers mentioned)
     Lyotard — Postmodern philosophy
     Derrida — Deconstruction
     Heidegger — Phenomenology
    00:53:14
     Virgil — Aeneid — Roman epic
     Bible — (Moses narrative) — Epic of calling and suffering

    🔓 Become a patron to support us and unlock exclusive monthly symbolism content: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe
    💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com
    🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau  
    🎧 Listen to and review The Symbolic World podcast:
    -Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0gI8bUwPtT3gkduHqNh6M5
    -Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-symbolic-world/id1386867488 
    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ 
    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
  • The Symbolic World

    442 - "Historical Accuracy" Can Miss the Point

    26/03/2026 | 14 mins.
    We often assume that being “historically accurate” means getting closer to the truth, but that’s not always the case. In this video, I explore how modern, mechanical thinking can actually invert meaning, using the example of Christ’s crucifixion. 
    What matters most is not just the mechanical details of how something could have happened, but what it means and its actual implications.

    Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/HXsbK_k8vn4

    SUMMIT 2026: Join us for the Symbolic World Summit 2026! Speakers include Fr. Josiah Trenham, Mary Harrington, Jonathan Pageau, Dn. Seraphim Rohlin, and others.
    Date: May 14-16
    Place: Broadview Heights, OH
    Don't miss out! Hope to see you there: https://symbolicworldsummit.com/

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    NEW COURSE: Plutarch: Symbolism in History with Pavel Shchelin
    The problem with history is that you are in it. Plutarch teaches us to read power symbolically—asking "whom does the hero serve?" to predict leadership patterns before they play out.
    Presenter: Pavel Shchelin
    Duration: 8 weeks studying the lives of Greeks and Roman Lycurgus, Alcibiades, Lysander, Pompey, Caesar, and Octavian –as living patterns, not dead men.
    Live classes are on Wednesdays at 4-6pm Eastern Time, starting March 18th through May 6th, 2026.
    Price: $180 USD - Involved patrons can get a 10% discount. Apply your code at checkout. 
    Register now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/plutarch-symbolism-in-history
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    🔓 Become a patron to support us and unlock exclusive monthly symbolism content: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe
    💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com
    🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau  

    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ 
    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/

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Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.
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