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Scrolling 2 Death

Nicki Petrossi
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    EdTech is Big Tech: Schools, Screens, and the Law (with Emily Cherkin)

    19/1/2026 | 47 mins.
    In this episode ofĀ Scrolling 2 Death, I’m joined byĀ Emily Cherkin, known asĀ The Screentime Consultant—a leading voice pushing back against the digitization, commodification, and gamification of childhood.

    Emily is a best-selling author, professor, speaker, andĀ lead plaintiff in lawsuits challenging EdTech’s exploitation of children’s privacy. This week, she’s taking that fight straight to Washington, DC—testifying before the U.S. Senate.

    We start by tackling the questions parents ask me every day:
    Is there a real link between screen time andĀ declining literacy?
    What does theĀ NIH’s ABCD brain studyĀ actually show about changes to kids’ brains?
    How do you enforce age ratings whenĀ everyone else’s kidĀ has access to mature games?
    What can parents do aboutĀ screens at school beyond 1:1 devices—from Smartboards to YouTube to GoNoodle?
    And how do you push back when schools say,Ā ā€œThe program requires X minutes to be effectiveā€?

    Then we shift to what’s happening in the Senate:
    Why this hearing is different from past conversations about screen time
    WhyĀ EdTech is finally being put under the microscope
    What parents should know about theĀ Kids Off Social Media Act (KOSMA)
    And what real takeaways families can useĀ right now

    Finally, we talk about one of the most powerful—and intimidating—tools parents have:Ā lawsuits.

    Emily shares updates on her EdTech cases, breaks down how the legal process works, and explains how parents can get involved without feeling overwhelmed.

    This is a must-listen for parents who know something is wrong—but are ready to do something about it.

    šŸ”— Resources mentioned:
    Full Senate hearing
    Find out more about taking legal action against EdTech companies:Ā edtech.law
    Emily's Substack:Ā First Fish Chronicles
    Unplug EdTech Toolkit
    The Digital DelusionĀ (book)Ā by Jared Cooney Horvath
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    Is your child's best friend an AI? (with Sam Hiner)

    12/1/2026 | 42 mins.
    What happens when artificial intelligence stops acting like a tool—and starts acting like aĀ friend?

    In this episode ofĀ Scrolling 2 Death, I’m joined byĀ Sam Hiner, founder ofĀ Young People's Alliance, a national youth-led organization organizing across 55 college campuses to take on Big Tech and protect the next generation.

    Sam began cold-calling lawmakersĀ as a high school studentĀ during COVID—and today, he’s helping lead state and federal policy fights against social media addiction and the rise ofĀ human-like AI companionsĀ that are quietly targeting children.

    We unpack:
    Why lawmakers still don’t understand how algorithms—and AI companions—actually work
    How companies like Character.ai, Replika, and others are intentionally designing bots to simulate love, pride, and emotional attachment
    Why kids are forming deep emotional bonds with AI—and what that means for mental health, community, and development
    The disturbing reality of AI companions engaging sexually with minors while hiding behind legal disclaimers
    Why states—not Congress—may be our best chance to protect kids right now
    The newĀ Human-Like AI FrameworkĀ and what parents can doĀ todayĀ to push for real safeguards

    This conversation is a wake-up call: AI isn’t just changing how kids learn—it’s changing who they connect with, who they trust, and who they turn to when they’re lonely.

    And unless we act, the future being built for our children may look a lot darker than we realize.

    Action Step for Listeners:Ā Send this Model Bill to your State Lawmakers (Protecting Kids from Manipulative AIĀ Chatbots)
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    "AI or Opt-Out": How One Mom Took Her Kids Off School Chromebooks (with Julie Frumin)

    05/1/2026 | 55 mins.
    What happens when a school-issued Chromebook starts talking to your child—without permission?

    In this episode ofĀ Scrolling 2 Death, Nicki is joined byĀ Julie Frumin, a mental health professional, mom, and education safety advocate in Southern California, who shares her shocking experience navigating school-issued devices, hidden AI chatbots, and a system that told her she had only two choices:Ā accept AI on her children’s devices—or turn them in entirely.

    Julie walks us through:
    How her elementary-aged daughter was exposed to inappropriate content during school recess
    How anĀ AI chatbot appeared unpromptedĀ on her middle schooler’s Chromebook, offering to do his homework
    Why schools claim parentsĀ cannot legally opt outĀ of devices in California
    The hidden data collection, surveillance, and lack of transparency inside EdTech platforms
    The intimidation parents face when raising concerns with districts and school boards
    Why ā€œteaching kids to use tech responsiblyā€ ignores brain development and addiction science

    We also dig into the bigger picture: Why EdTech is replacing teachers, how school budgets are being diverted to software contracts, and why parents deserveĀ transparency, consent, and the right to refuseĀ technology that doesn’t serve their children.

    Julie shares practical advice for parents who want to push back—starting with teachers, navigating principals and school boards, and getting involved in statewide policy efforts, including proposals to:
    Require full transparency and parental consent for EdTech
    Pause AI use in K–8 classrooms
    Restore paper-and-pencil learning and assessments
    Move toward distraction-free, developmentally appropriate schools

    This is an essential conversation for any parent who’s been told,Ā ā€œThis is just how school works now.ā€
    Because it doesn’t have to be.
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    Resources, research, and advocacy links mentioned in this episode are available here:
    Parent Templates to start conversations with your school,Ā organized by Tech-Safe Learning
    Fit for PurposeĀ by Faith Bonninger
    Distraction Free Schools California
    Distraction Free Schools (US)
    Interviews with neuroscientist Jared Cooney-HorvathĀ hereĀ andĀ here
    Schools Beyond Screens (LAUSDĀ Coalition)
    BookĀ Reco:Ā Screen Damage
    Book Reco:Ā Digital Delusion by Jared Cooney-Horvath
    Join TheĀ Heat is On parent group to take action
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    Smartphones, School Devices & AI: The New Education Crisis (with Rep. Chris Deluzio)

    29/12/2025 | 23 mins.
    Today onĀ Scrolling 2 Death, Nicki sits down with Congressman Chris Deluzio—a dad of four and a fierce advocate for safer, healthier schools—to unpack one of the most urgent issues facing American families: screens in the classroom.

    Rep. Deluzio recently released a major report on smartphone use in schools after months of research and conversations with teachers, administrators, and parents across Western Pennsylvania. He breaks down what he found, why phone-free schools are gaining bipartisan momentum nationwide, and why Pennsylvania has struggled to pass similar legislation.

    Nicki and the Congressman go deeper, expanding the conversation beyond smartphones to the overlooked risks ofĀ school-issued devices, lack of oversight, and the growing push to introduceĀ AI chatbots into middle-school classrooms. From data privacy to compulsive design to tech companies lobbying to stop states from regulating AI, this episode exposes the full ecosystem of digital harm entering our children’s schools—often without parents’ knowledge.

    The conversation ends with a call for bipartisan cooperation and real accountability: parents, educators, and lawmakers working together to ensure that technology in schools actually supports learning instead of undermining it.

    If you care about what your kids are exposed to at school, this is an episode you can’t miss.

    Elected in 2022 and re-elected in 2024, Congressman Chris Deluzio is serving his second term in Congress representing the people of Pennsylvania’s 17th Congressional District—where he serves on the House Armed Services Committee and the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. Pennsylvania’s 17th district includes all of Beaver County and parts of Allegheny County. Congressman Deluzio is a native of Thornburg and lives with his family in Allegheny County.

    Congressman Deluzio is an Iraq War veteran, voting rights attorney, and union organizer. He graduated from Bishop Canevin High School and received a Bachelor of Science degree with merit from the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis.
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    The Heat is On...Meta (Part 2)

    18/12/2025 | 37 mins.
    InĀ Part 1, we revealed how Meta’s products are harming kids — not by accident, but by design.

    InĀ Part 2, we uncover how Meta responds when confronted with these dangers. Spoiler: it’s manipulation, PR spin, and ā€œsafety featuresā€ that don’t actually keep kids safe.

    We break down Meta’s Teen Accounts rollout, the massive marketing campaign behind it, and the independent tests and new research showing that teens are still being pushed sexual content, violence, self-harm, predators, and more. We examine why experts say Meta’s fixes are performative — and why real change will only come from lawsuits, legislation, and collective public pressure.

    We also look at the major court cases underway, the growing protests, and what parents can do right now to demand real protections for kids.

    This episode isn’t just about what Meta has done — it’s about what they refuse to do, and how we force the change our kids deserve.

    The heat is on.
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    Here's how you can take action today:Ā 
    Sign up for our email list atĀ https://www.scrolling2death.com/heat
    Sign the Petition asking Meta to make Instagram safer.Ā Here's the Petition link.
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    ā€Hosts:Ā ā€
    Nicki Petrossi – Host of Scrolling 2 DeathĀ 
    Sarah Gardner – Founder & CEO ofĀ Heat Initiative
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    Expert Guests:Ā 
    Kelly StonelakeĀ - Former Meta executive and whistleblower
    Arturo BejarĀ - Former Meta executive and whistleblower
    Paul RaffileĀ - Cyber analyst and sextortion expert
    Jonathan HaidtĀ - Author of The Anxious Generation
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    Expert editing provided byĀ Jacob Meade.
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    Other Resources mentioned in the episode:Ā 
    Design it for Us Report:Ā Teen Accounts Fail to Deliver Promised Safety Features
    Teen Survey by Heat Initiative:Ā Instagram Teen Accounts are Missing the Mark
    Research led by Arturo Bejar:Ā Instagram Still Poses Risk to Children, Despite New Safety Tools
    Parents TogetherĀ Action Report:Ā Teen Accounts Sextortion Report

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Scrolling 2 Death is a podcast for parents who are worried about social media. Through interviews with parents and experts, we explore smartphone use, screen time, school-issued devices, social media use and so much more.
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