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The BIG Home Ed Conversations

Kelly Rigg & Ashley Vanerio
The BIG Home Ed Conversations
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  • Refugee Education, Prejudice & Shared Humanity: Learning From Displaced Young People
    In this episode of the BIG Home Ed Conversations Podcast, Kelly and Ashley sit down with Catherine Gladwell, founder and CEO of Refugee Education UK, to explore what education really looks like when your whole life has been uprooted. Catherine shares powerful stories from her work with refugee children and teenagers in the UK – many of whom have been out of school for years, arrived alone as unaccompanied minors, or are trying to learn in a new language while carrying trauma, grief and separation from family. Together they unpack: Why over half of the world’s refugee children are currently out of school The hidden barriers refugee learners face in the UK (language, trauma, missing records, complex systems) How academic potential is misjudged when language and PTSD get mistaken for “low ability” Incredible resilience and self‑motivation – from teens fighting to sit GCSEs to those dreaming of rebuilding their home countries The emotional impact of prejudice, othering and hostile narratives about refugees How schools can better recognise prior learning (mother‑tongue GCSEs, accelerated learning, subject‑specific language support) What home‑educating families can do to talk about refugees, challenge stereotypes and raise more compassionate kids Kelly and Ashley also reflect on parallels with home education: worries about “translating” a non‑standard educational path into exams, further education and future opportunities – and how our current systems often measure the wrong things while missing character, resilience and lived experience. Resources mentioned: The Boy at the Back of the Class by Onjali Q. Raúf - Get it here. Refugee Education UK - https://www.reuk.org/donate Take it further: Use this episode as a springboard to talk with your children about refugees, displacement and shared humanity. Small acts of welcome – a smile, a hello, an invitation to play – can make a huge difference to a young person starting again in a new country. Keywords: refugee education UK, refugee children in school, asylum seekers and education, prejudice and refugees, inclusive education, trauma‑informed teaching, accelerated learning, home education UK, changing perspectives, empathy for refugees
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  • SEND, Ableism & Neurodivergence in Education: Rethinking 'Standard'
    In this powerful episode of the BIG Home Ed Conversations Podcast, Kelly and Ashley sit down with author, educator and neurodivergent advocate Helen Daniel to unpack ableism in the education system through the lens of SEND and neurodivergence. Drawing on Helen’s experience as a teacher, academic and author of Neurosensory Divergence: Autistic Languages, they explore how a system built on standardisation often fails autistic and otherwise neurodivergent children – and what more equitable, sensory-aware education could look like, both in school and in home ed. Together they dive into: How curriculum changes and raised targets (times tables, Shakespeare, early formal writing) pushed more neurodivergent children “outside the norm.” Why standardisation is the enemy of equity – and why one-size-fits-all schooling doesn’t work for diverse brains. EHCPs, SEND provision and why the system feels broken for so many families. Sensory profiles, overload and meltdowns: what’s really going on beneath “behaviour.” Practical examples of small, powerful accommodations (movement, video learning, headphones, flexible seating.) How home ed groups can unintentionally replicate ableism – and how to design more inclusive spaces. Teaching all children (ND and NT) compassion, curiosity and respect for different needs. This is a validating, eye-opening listen for: Parents of autistic, ADHD, PDA or otherwise neurodivergent children. Home educating families navigating SEND needs. Teachers who feel the system is wrong but don’t know how to change it. Any parent wanting to raise more compassionate, neuro-affirming kids. Guest Spotlight: Find Helen’s book Neurosensory Divergence: Autistic Languages in all the usual places for a deeper dive into sensory processing, autistic communication and building truly equitable lives for autistic children. Find Helen at https://outsidetheboxsensory.com/ or on social media @otbsensory. (New website coming soon though!) Join the conversation: Has this episode resonated with your family’s experience of SEND or neurodivergence? Share your stories or questions with us on Instagram or TikTok @bighomeedpodcast, or head to the blog www.offroadingmotherhood.co.uk/blog for more resources and episode notes. Keywords: SEND and ableism, neurodivergent children, autism and education, EHCPs UK, sensory needs in school, home education UK, inclusive home ed, trauma-informed education, alternative education, autistic-friendly learning, neurosensory divergence
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  • Changing Perspectives: Prejudice within the Home Education Community
    In this episode of the BIG Home Ed Conversations Podcast, Kelly and Ashley dive deep into the often-unspoken topic of prejudice within the home educating community. From unschooling vs. curriculum-based approaches, to faith, politics, socioeconomic status, and cultural backgrounds, they unpack the subtle (and not-so-subtle) biases that can create divides among home educators. With real-life stories, honest reflections, and a healthy dose of empathy, they explore: Why different home ed methods spark debate (unschooling, project-based, curriculum-led, eclectic) How faith, politics, and culture shape our perspectives—and how to honour differences Socioeconomic barriers, privilege, and the importance of compassion over comparison The risks of judgement and the power of community support Practical tips for recognising and challenging your own biases Whether you’re a seasoned home edder or just starting out, this episode is a call to celebrate individuality, question assumptions, and create a more welcoming, diverse, and resilient home education community. Book Spotlight: This week, we’re recommending Wonder by R.J. Palacio—a moving story about difference, kindness, and the courage to stand out. It’s a brilliant way to open up conversations about prejudice, empathy, and the importance of welcoming everyone, no matter how different they may seem. Support the Podcast and the environment, get it from World of Books Now: https://tidd.ly/4i0oMg3. Join the conversation: Has this topic resonated with you? Share your experiences or questions with us on Instagram or TikTok @bighomeedpodcast, or visit our blog for more resources and episode notes. Keywords: home education UK, home ed prejudice, unschooling vs curriculum, diversity in home education, home education community, challenging bias, inclusive homeschooling, home ed support, alternative education, neurodivergent families
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  • Changing Perspectives: Diversity, Hybrid Homeschooling & Banned Books with Chris Linder (Homeschool Remix)
    In this powerful episode of the Big Home Ed Conversations Podcast, Kelly and Ashley sit down with Atlanta-based educator, tech specialist, and author Chris Linder—founder of Homeschool Remix—to dig deep into what real diversity and inclusion can look like in home education. Chris brings a wealth of lived experience, working with all families, but especially Black, Brown, Indigenous, and marginalized families to create flexible, hybrid homeschooling solutions that fit real life—not just the “ideal” often seen online. Together, we explore why representation in education matters, how to actively include all voices, and the practical barriers many families face in both the UK and US. This episode covers: Chris’s unique journey from radio DJ to teacher, tech expert, and home education advocate. What “hybrid homeschooling” really means—and why it’s a lifeline for diverse and working families. The invisible barriers and stigmas that keep home education feeling out of reach for many. Why representation and critical thinking are essential—at home and in the curriculum. The chilling reality of banned books, whitewashing, and whose stories get told in schools. How to start tough conversations about race, privilege, ableism, and identity with your kids. Practical, honest advice for making home education accessible (even on a tight budget). The “folding chair” philosophy: if there’s no seat at the table, bring your own—and build community. Plus: Why critical thinking—not just travel—is the antidote to prejudice. Book recommendations for building empathy and perspective at home: Our recommendation this week is Ghost by Jason Reynolds - get it here from World of Books. We’re recommending Ghost by Jason Reynolds to accompany this episode because it’s a powerful, accessible novel that tackles themes of race, poverty, resilience, and belonging through the eyes of a young Black boy navigating life’s challenges. Ghost’s story offers a window into experiences often underrepresented in mainstream curricula, making it a brilliant conversation starter for families wanting to build empathy, discuss diversity, and see the world from a different perspective. It’s an engaging, fast-paced read that encourages critical thinking, compassion, and honest conversations about what it means to find your place in the world—perfect for the heart of today’s discussion. How to join Chris’s “Seat Squad” community for ongoing support: Head to www.homeschoolremix.com to grab Chris’s book, 'Homeschool Remix' and join his community. Listener invitation: We want your voices! Have you faced barriers, prejudice, or found creative ways to make home education work for your family? Share your story or question with us on Instagram or TikTok @bighomeedpodcast, or visit our blog at offroadingmotherhood.co.uk/blog to join the conversation. We’d love to feature your lived experience in a future episode.
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  • Changing Perspectives in Home Education — Diversity, Belonging & Real Voices
    Welcome back to Season 4 of the Big Home Ed Conversations Podcast! In this new “Changing Perspectives” series, Kelly and Ashley dive into the big, sometimes uncomfortable, but always essential conversations about diversity, inclusion, and breaking out of our bubbles as home educating families. This season is all about stretching our thinking—beyond our own lived experiences, beliefs, and backgrounds—to raise kids who are compassionate, curious, and ready to thrive in a diverse world. We’re opening the door to voices and stories we might not hear in our everyday circles, and asking the questions that really matter: Who isn’t represented in our community? How can we make home education more welcoming and accessible? What does true belonging look like for all families? In this kickoff episode, you’ll hear: Why we’re making space for new perspectives and lived experiences in home ed. Honest reflections on privilege, accessibility, and the myths of home education. The importance of teaching our kids to step into someone else’s shoes—whether it’s about race, religion, disability, gender, family structure, or life circumstances. Our hopes for this series: More empathy, more critical thinking, and more real conversations at home. Book recommendations and practical ways to start these conversations with your own children. How YOU can get involved by sharing your stories, questions, or lived experiences (see below!) PLUS: Our honest review of Outschool after a summer of classes—what worked, what didn’t, and a special discount code for listeners (details in the episode!). Listener Invitation: We want your voices and stories! Visit the blog at offroadingmotherhood.co.uk/blog for a list of upcoming topics, or message us directly on Instagram or TikTok @bighomeedpodcast. If you have a personal experience, question, or comment about diversity, inclusion, or belonging in home education, send it our way—we’d love to read it on air (anonymously if you prefer). What’s coming up: Throughout this season, expect open-hearted conversations with authors, experts, real voices and home educators from all walks of life. We’ll tackle tough topics: prejudice and privilege, whitewashing in education, banned books, gender and sexuality, ableism, neurodiversity, and more. Each episode will include a book recommendation for you and your kids—perfect for expanding your family’s bookshelf and worldview. Let’s break the cycle of “fixed facts” and automatic assumptions, and raise kids who know that every voice matters—including their own.
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About The BIG Home Ed Conversations

The BIG Home Ed Conversations is the No.1 active 'home education' podcast for parents who want to move past the myths and dive deep into what we actually want to talk about as alternative educators. Join Kelly (home ed mum of 2 and home education coach & mentor) and Ashley (ex-primary teacher & home ed mum of 3) as they debunk myths, tackle real challenges, and share honest, empowering, mindset-shifting conversations for families choosing alternative education. Whether you’re new to home educating or looking for fresh perspectives to support your child’s learning journey, this podcast offers practical advice, mindset shifts, and heartfelt stories from UK-based parents and experts. We go beyond the basics—helping you handle the ups and downs of home education, break free from generational patterns, and build confidence in your own path. Tune in for weekly episodes packed with reassurance, motivation and community for mums, dads, and anyone passionate about holistic, alternative, project-led, or eclectic education. Find out why we’re the top-rated home ed podcast, and feel less alone on your journey. Ps. We only use the term homeschooling from time to time to help US, European and new to home ed families find us!
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