Debate: Can Everything Fit On 1 Computer? | Permissionless IV Panel | Bonus Episode
This week, we're sharing with you a live debate from Permissionless that features Jill and Uma who are joined by Max from Onza, and Rob from Polkadot to dive into the technicals around can everything fit in 1 machine?!
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Katana Ad
00:35 Intros
06:28 Is The Trilemma Real?
13:57 Where's The Limit For 1 Machine?
17:45 Apps + Vertical Integration
23:08 Benefits Of Shared State
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Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation.
Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
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Block Space Talks From Brooklyn | Roundup
This week, Jill, Uma and Mike got together IRL to record the Roundup with Nick joining virtually. From purpose built block space to L2s to stablecoins and prediction markets, per usual - this roundup has it all and is live from Brooklyn at Permissionless IV!
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
01:32 Permissionless
04:17 Purpose Built Block Space
13:37 Block Space / Brand Fit
14:55 Katana Mid Roll
20:01 Proof Of Governance
26:11 L2s Advantage
32:34 Katana Mid Roll
33:01 Selective PayBacks For Stablecoin Payments
39:26 Prediction Markets
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Disclaimer
Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation.
Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
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The CLOB Wars, Ethereum’s New Direction & The SEC’s Regulatory Shift | Roundup
In this week's roundup, Jill, Uma, and Nick discuss “CLOBs on Blobs”, the Hibachi launch, and the ongoing CLOB Wars. They also unpack the Ethereum Foundation’s new direction, and the SEC’s regulatory shift. Enjoy!
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Resources
WTF Are CLOBs on Blobs: https://x.com/0xJaehaerys/status/1935721742816719272
The CLOB Wars: https://x.com/nickwh8te/status/1935726630598807951
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
03:11 CLOBs on Blobs & the Hibachi Launch
14:40 Katana Pre-Roll
15:13 The CLOB Wars
19:23 Decentralization & Censorship Resistance
30:35 Katana Mid-Roll
31:38 The Ethereum Foundation’s New Direction
42:05 The SEC’s Regulatory Shift
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Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation.
Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
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Introducing The Token Transparency Framework | Empire
This week, we're publishing an Empire episode on our feed to share info about the recent Blockworks launch of a brand new Token Transparency Framework.
In this episode, Yano is joined by Dan Smith of Blockworks Research, Felipe Montealegre of Theia Research and Louis T of L1D to publicly launch a brand new, industry leading Token Transparency Framework that will move the entire industry forward!
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Learn more here - https://blockworks.co/token-transparency
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Chapters:00:00
Token Transparency02:25
The Token Market & Lemons
11:40 Equity vs Token Risk
14:18 Structural Token Issues
17:12 How Did We Get Here?
22:57 Token Horror Stories
31:50 Token Launches
56:50 Best Case Scenario
01:02:38 Impact On Token Prices
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
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The US Crypto Landscape In 2025 | Roundup
In this episode, the gang unpacks major talking points from this week including but not limited to the notion of the end of foundations in crypto, Circle’s IPO, the impact the US government has had on the overall ecosystem and chokepoint 2.0s lasting impacts on Ethereum, existing legal challenge for tokens in the US and the space for privacy focused stablecoins to take shape.
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Chapters:
(00:00) Introduction
(02:22) Listening To Old Crypto Podcasts
(08:47) PRE ROLL LEDGER AD
(16:21) Crypto’s Time In The USA
(18:15) Ethereum vs Solana Foundation
(24:21) Existing Legal Challenges For Tokens
(27:09) Why Hyperliquid Over A CEX?
(34:41) Crypto Driving Push To Revisit KYC
(39:20) MID ROLL LEDGER AD
(42:35) White Hat To The Rescue
(43:10) Private Stablecoin Protocols
(46:26) Circle’s IPO
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Disclaimer:
Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation.
Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
The podcast on Modular. Exploring a refreshed vision for building in crypto. Expansion is a podcast exploring the intersection of modular blockchain design and abundant blockspace. We’ll bring on the leading voices from the modular ecosystem to discuss blockchain design, specialization, applications, and the possibilities that cheap, secure blockspace unlocks.
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