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  • 0xResearch Cross-Post: Crypto Meets TradFi: The New Convergence | Round Table
    In this episode, our Blockworks Research analysts cover shifting macro conditions, the growth of tokenized gold, Solana’s rising institutional interest, and the evolving overlap between crypto and traditional finance. They also examine airdrop mechanics, critique Berachain’s approach, and debate what trends will define the next two years. Thanks for tuning in! As always, remember this podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely their opinions, not financial advice. Resources Berachain Dashboard: https://app.blockworksresearch.com/analytics/berachain?dashboard=bera-overview Kaito Connect Post: https://x.com/KaitoAI/status/1912160810329112899 — L2s and L3s are history. Supra Containers give you dedicated, customizable AppSpace on Supra’s Layer-1 to rescue you from the costs, complexities, and fragmentation of L2s and L3s.  Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to. Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here. Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks – Ledger, the global leader in digital asset security, proudly sponsors Bell Curve! As Ledger celebrates 10 years of securing 20% of global crypto, it remains the top choice for securing your assets. Buy a LEDGER™ device now, and build confidently, knowing your BTC, ETH, SOL, and more are safe. Buy now on https://shop.ledger.com/?r=1da180a5de00. – Missed DAS? Join us from June 24th-June 26th at Permissionless IV! Use Code EXPANSION10 at checkout for 10% off! Tickets: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iv -- Follow Carlos: https://x.com/0xcarlosg Follow Marc: https://x.com/marcarjoon Follow Boccaccio: https://x.com/salveboccaccio Follow Danny: https://x.com/defi_kay_ Follow Blockworks Research: https://x.com/blockworksres Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3foDS38 Subscribe on Apple: https://apple.co/3SNhUEt Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3NlP1hA Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ Join the 0xResearch Telegram group: https://t.me/+z0H6y2bS-dllODVh —-- Check out Blockworks Research today! Research, data, governance, tokenomics, and models – now, all in one place Blockworks Research: https://www.blockworksresearch.com/ Free Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on 0xResearch is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Boccaccio, Danny, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
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  • Taking the Sovereign Rollup Pill | Roundup
    In this week's roundup, we’re joined by Luis Schliesske, Founder of Abundance and Gelato, to take the Sovereign Rollup pill! We challenge traditional L1 vs. L2 distinctions, dive into rollup architecture, settlement misconceptions, and why rollup L1s may define the future of modular blockchain infrastructure. Enjoy! Resources Gelato’s Vision for Abundant Blockspace & Sovereign Rollups: https://t.co/czhqMgM1e2 ABC: The Sovereign Rollup Pill: https://x.com/luis_0x/status/1907822812846346262 – L2s and L3s are history. Supra Containers give you dedicated, customizable AppSpace on Supra’s Layer-1 to rescue you from the costs, complexities, and fragmentation of L2s and L3s.  Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to. Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here. Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks – Ledger, the global leader in digital asset security, proudly sponsors Bell Curve! As Ledger celebrates 10 years of securing 20% of global crypto, it remains the top choice for securing your assets. Buy a LEDGER™ device now, and build confidently, knowing your BTC, ETH, SOL, and more are safe. Buy now on https://shop.ledger.com/?r=1da180a5de00. – Missed DAS? Join us from June 24th-June 26th at Permissionless IV! Use Code EXPANSION10 at checkout for 10% off! Tickets: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iv - - Follow Luis: https://x.com/luis_0x Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Uma: https://x.com/pumatheuma Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3QLwfTs Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (03:19) The Division Between L1s & L2s (12:27) What is Settlement? (17:48) Supra Pre-Roll (18:13) Ledger Pre-Roll (18:32) Applications & Security Zones (25:54) Settlement Assurance For Institutions (34:56) Supra Mid-Roll (35:41) Ledger Mid-Roll (36:16) Assessing Asset Risk (48:12) IBC Eureka Goes Live (01:01:12) Bitcoin L2s & Starkware's ColliderVM (01:08:08) The ABC Stack & Sovereign Rollups - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
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  • Arbitrum’s Future as a Digital Sovereign Nation | AJ Warner
    In this week's episode, we’re joined by A.J. Warner, CSO at Offchain Labs, to discuss his bold vision for Arbitrum as a “digital sovereign nation.” We explore key differences between L1s and L2s, Arbitrum’s business model, capital allocation strategies, and how the new OpCo structure will drive governance and operational efficiency. Enjoy! Resources Hope for the Future of Arbitrum: https://x.com/ajwarner90/status/1908143389658194094 Arbitrum Forum - OpCo: https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/c/dao-grant-programs/operation-company-opco/63 – L2s and L3s are history. Supra Containers give you dedicated, customizable AppSpace on Supra’s Layer-1 to rescue you from the costs, complexities, and fragmentation of L2s and L3s.  Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to. Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here. Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks – Ledger, the global leader in digital asset security, proudly sponsors Bell Curve! As Ledger celebrates 10 years of securing 20% of global crypto, it remains the top choice for securing your assets. Buy a LEDGER™ device now, and build confidently, knowing your BTC, ETH, SOL, and more are safe. Buy now on https://shop.ledger.com/?r=1da180a5de00. – Missed DAS? Join us from June 24th-June 26th at Permissionless IV! Use Code EXPANSION10 at checkout for 10% off! Tickets: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iv - - Follow AJ: https://x.com/ajwarner90 Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3QLwfTs Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:07) Thinking About L1s vs L2s (10:02) Supra Pre-Roll (10:28) Ledger Pre-Roll (10:46) L2s Ability to Allocate Capital (20:32) Arbitrum's Business Model (26:35) Supra Mid-Roll (27:20) Ledger Mid-Roll (27:55) Key Growth Metrics (33:36) Capital Allocation Concerns & Arbitrum Governance (48:47) Arbitrum Stakeholders & DAO Structure (56:36) Operational Challenges & the Future of Arbitrum - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
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  • The Cost of Complacency in Crypto | Roundup
    In this week's roundup, we dive into the future of the EVM, exploring its shortcomings, network effects, and the rise of customized execution environments. We also discuss the value of decentralization, the durability of L1 premiums, the evolving app vs. infra dynamic, and how institutions might reshape blockchain adoption. Enjoy! Resources Fortress of Solitude - DegenSpartan: https://www.egirlcapital.com/writings/dE4AzaSbREOMppMqRmFpuA Solana Policy Institute: https://x.com/SolanaInstitute/status/1906677246225707379 – L2s and L3s are history. Supra Containers give you dedicated, customizable AppSpace on Supra’s Layer-1 to rescue you from the costs, complexities, and fragmentation of L2s and L3s.  Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to. Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here. Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks – Ledger, the global leader in digital asset security, proudly sponsors Bell Curve! As Ledger celebrates 10 years of securing 20% of global crypto, it remains the top choice for securing your assets. Buy a LEDGER™ device now, and build confidently, knowing your BTC, ETH, SOL, and more are safe. Buy now on https://shop.ledger.com/?r=1da180a5de00. – Missed DAS? Join us from June 24th-June 26th at Permissionless IV! Use Code EXPANSION10 at checkout for 10% off! Tickets: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iv - - Follow Jill: https://x.com/jillrgunter Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Uma: https://x.com/pumatheuma Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3QLwfTs Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:19) The Future of the EVM (11:22) Supra Pre-Roll (11:47) Ledger Pre-Roll (12:05) Building a Differentiated L1 Today (20:43) Revisiting the Fat Protocol Thesis (25:39) Supra Mid-Roll (26:23) Ledger Mid-Roll (26:58) Does the Market Still Care About Decentralization? (39:39) Is There Still an L1 Premium? (49:48) Winners Games & Losers Games (58:18) The Solana Policy Institute - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
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  • Hyperliquid Drama, Stablecoin Growth, and Ethereum’s North Star | Roundup
    In this week's roundup, the crew dives into AI’s impact on work, debates the realism of a post-work society, and unpacks the Hyperliquid vs. JellyJelly saga. They also explore the flood of new institutional stablecoin announcements, wins for privacy in crypto, and what stablecoins mean for L1 token value. Enjoy! – L2s and L3s are history. Supra Containers give you dedicated, customizable AppSpace on Supra’s Layer-1 to rescue you from the costs, complexities, and fragmentation of L2s and L3s.  Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to. Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here. Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks – Missed DAS? Join us from June 24th-June 26th at Permissionless IV! Use Code EXPANSION10 at checkout for 10% off! Tickets: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iv - - Follow Jill: https://x.com/jillrgunter Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Uma: https://x.com/pumatheuma Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3QLwfTs Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:11) The Post Work Society Debate (11:06) Supra Pre-Roll (11:32) Hyperliquid x JellyJelly Drama (28:11) Supra Mid-Roll (28:56) Privacy in Crypto (35:54) Institutional Stablecoin Announcements (50:16) Is Stablecoin Growth Bullish for L1s? - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
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The podcast on Modular. Exploring a refreshed vision for building in crypto. Expansion is a podcast exploring the intersection of modular blockchain design and abundant blockspace. We’ll bring on the leading voices from the modular ecosystem to discuss blockchain design, specialization, applications, and the possibilities that cheap, secure blockspace unlocks. Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3QLwfTs Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Follow on X: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/
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