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• Using AI Reasoning to Prevent AI Scams

  Alan Lefort (CEO, @StrongestLayer) discusses how LLM-powered reasoning is transforming phishing security from reactive pattern-matching to predictive threat detection, and why traditional rule-based systems can no longer defend against sophisticated AI-generated phishing attacks.SHOW: 965SHOW TRANSCRIPT: The Cloudcast #965 TranscriptSHOW VIDEO: https://youtube.com/@TheCloudcastNET CLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK: http://bit.ly/cloudcast-cnotwNEW TO CLOUD? CHECK OUT OUR OTHER PODCAST: "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SPONSORS:[Interconnected] Interconnected is a new series from Equinix diving into the infrastructure that keeps our digital world running. With expert guests and real-world insights, we explore the systems driving AI, automation, quantum, and more. Just search “Interconnected by Equinix”.[TestKube] TestKube is Kubernetes-native testing platform, orchestrating all your test tools, environments, and pipelines into scalable workflows empowering Continuous Testing. Check it out at TestKube.io/cloudcastSHOW NOTES:WebsiteStrongestLayer ResearchTopic 1 - Welcome to the show Alan. Tell us about your background and your involvement in Cybersecuity.Topic 2 - Let's start with the core challenge. You've said that "if only AI can defend against weaponized AI" - what specific gap in traditional email security did you identify that led to this philosophy? How are AI-powered phishing attacks fundamentally different from what we've seen before?Topic 3 - How does this attack vector demonstrate the limitations of rule-based security systems, and why can't traditional pattern matching keep up?Topic 4 - Let's break down your TRACE (Threat Reasoning and AI Correlation Engine) architecture. You've described it as "LLM-as-master" rather than "LLM-as-add-on." What does this fundamental architectural difference mean for threat detection, and how does it help?Topic 5 - You discuss "pre-campaign detection," which involves identifying potential phishing campaigns weeks before emails are sent. This sounds like moving from reactive to predictive security. How does your system correlate technical intelligence with business context to achieve this early warning capability?Topic 6 - From an implementation standpoint, how do organizations integrate LLM-powered reasoning into their existing security stacks? What's the deployment model, and how do you handle the challenge of reasoning about business context without exposing sensitive organizational data?FEEDBACK?Email: show at the cloudcast dot netBluesky: @cloudcastpod.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @cloudcastpodInstagram: @cloudcastpodTikTok: @cloudcastpod

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• Will Cloud Providers start acquiring SaaS?

  As cloud matures, could the hyperscale cloud providers start looking to acquire SaaS providers to build out a bundled application portfolio? Or are the demands of AI investment too much to pursue that strategy? SHOW: 964SHOW TRANSCRIPT: The Cloudcast #964 TranscriptSHOW VIDEO: https://youtube.com/@TheCloudcastNET CLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK: http://bit.ly/cloudcast-cnotwCHECK OUT OUR NEW PODCAST: "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SHOW SPONSORS:[TestKube] TestKube is Kubernetes-native testing platform, orchestrating all your test tools, environments, and pipelines into scalable workflows empowering Continuous Testing. Check it out at TestKube.io/cloudcast[Interconnected] Interconnected is a new series from Equinix diving into the infrastructure that keeps our digital world running. With expert guests and real-world insights, we explore the systems driving AI, automation, quantum, and more. Just search “Interconnected by Equinix”.SHOW NOTES:Clouded Judgement (Jamin Bell)100 Biggest SaaS CompaniesCOULD THE CLOUD HYPERSCALERS START LOOKING TO ACQUIRE SAAS COMPANIES?Do the hyperscalers start acting like Private Equity to acquire SaaS revenue streams?Do the hyperscalers start moving from primitive providers to bundlers?Do the hyperscalers have to make a choice between AI/CAPEX investment and SaaS investment?Do the hyperscalers figure out a way to spin-off the AI/CAPEX portions of their business for a period of time?FEEDBACK?Email: show at the cloudcast dot netTwitter/X: @cloudcastpodBlueSky: @cloudcastpod.bsky.socialInstagram: @cloudcastpodTikTok: @cloudcastpod

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• AI & Cloud Trends for September 2025

  Brian Gracely (@bgracely) and Brandon Whichard (@bwhichard, @SoftwareDefTalk) discuss the top stories in Cloud and AI from September 2025.SHOW: 963SHOW TRANSCRIPT: The Cloudcast #963 TranscriptSHOW VIDEO: https://youtube.com/@TheCloudcastNET NEW TO CLOUD? CHECK OUT OUR OTHER PODCAST:  "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SPONSORS:[Interconnected] Interconnected is a new series from Equinix diving into the infrastructure that keeps our digital world running. With expert guests and real-world insights, we explore the systems driving AI, automation, quantum, and more. Just search “Interconnected by Equinix”.[TestKube] TestKube is Kubernetes-native testing platform, orchestrating all your test tools, environments, and pipelines into scalable workflows empowering Continuous Testing. Check it out at TestKube.io/cloudcastSHOW NOTES:Link to August 2025 News and ArticlesFEEDBACK?Email: show at the cloudcast dot netBluesky: @cloudcastpod.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @cloudcastpodInstagram: @cloudcastpodTikTok: @cloudcastpod

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• The AI Awkward Years

  Between the bold predictions, VC economics, and rising usage-patterns are stories of limited ROIs, undefined use-cases and associated job losses. AI is in an awkward phase of maturity and it’s not clear how it will evolve into the next phase. SHOW: 962SHOW TRANSCRIPT: The Cloudcast #962 TranscriptSHOW VIDEO: https://youtube.com/@TheCloudcastNET CLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK: http://bit.ly/cloudcast-cnotwCHECK OUT OUR NEW PODCAST: "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SHOW SPONSORS:[TestKube] TestKube is Kubernetes-native testing platform, orchestrating all your test tools, environments, and pipelines into scalable workflows empowering Continuous Testing. Check it out at TestKube.io/cloudcast[Interconnected] Interconnected is a new series from Equinix diving into the infrastructure that keeps our digital world running. With expert guests and real-world insights, we explore the systems driving AI, automation, quantum, and more. Just search “Interconnected by Equinix”.SHOW NOTES:THE SPECTRUM OF AIThe early years of the Internet, we tried to replicate physical-based activitiesThe early years of the Internet, the whole industry/world-economy wasn’t depending on “the next thing”The early years of AI, “the leaders” are talking about curing cancer and double human longevityCloud had “lift and shift”; AI has “get everyone a GenAI license”Where is the middle? Where is the rational discussion?Massive FundingMassive # of Consumer UsersFrom Ed to Sam, from Dario to Satya, from Jensen to Larry …. Big spectrums of opinionsUnprofitable (except NVIDIA, Broadcom)Near monopoly of GPUs by NVIDIAEvery couple months, the landscape seems to shift (OpenAI partners, Leading models, Questionable Enterprise ROI - lots of “we gave everyone GenAI, but we don’t know how to measure it”Companies are laying off workers, or avoiding hiring because of promises of AIUnknown “killer” use-cases beyond chatbots, therapy, developer-assistants, writing, document handlingToday’s mantra is “Rub some AI Agents on it”FEEDBACK?Email: show at the cloudcast dot netTwitter/X: @cloudcastpodBlueSky: @cloudcastpod.bsky.socialInstagram: @cloudcastpodTikTok: @cloudcastpod

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• AI Agents for Unstructured Data

  Stephan Donze (@sdonze CEO @AODocs), discusses the enterprise unstructured data crisis, where 80% of business data remains untapped due to legacy system limitations and the challenges of AI-powered document management at scale. We explore how AI agents can transform document workflows while maintaining trust and compliance, the architectural principles needed for cloud-native document management, and why traditional search fails in the age of generative AI.SHOW: 961SHOW TRANSCRIPT: The Cloudcast #961 TranscriptSHOW VIDEO: https://youtube.com/@TheCloudcastNET NEW TO CLOUD? CHECK OUT OUR OTHER PODCAST - "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SPONSORS:[Interconnected] Interconnected is a new series from Equinix diving into the infrastructure that keeps our digital world running. With expert guests and real-world insights, we explore the systems driving AI, automation, quantum, and more. Just search “Interconnected by Equinix”.[TestKube] TestKube is Kubernetes-native testing platform, orchestrating all your test tools, environments, and pipelines into scalable workflows empowering Continuous Testing. Check it out at TestKube.io/cloudcastSHOW NOTES:AODocs websiteTopic 1 - Welcome to the show, Stephan. Give everyone a quick introduction.Topic 2 - We hear all the time about unstructured data and the continual growth in the Enterprise. I’ve heard numbers of upwards of 80% of all corporate data is unstructured. I’ve worked at several companies and supported a significant number of customers over the years, and I can count on one hand how many say they have “control” of their data. How did this come to be, and is the problem as big as I think?Topic 3 - The second part of this, and this might be an even bigger problem, is how much of the data is used? Too many needles in the haystack, if you will. How does Agentic AI address this challenge, and where do traditional document management systems fail?Topic 4 - We’ve talked about data quality in the past on the show, and I’m wondering if this also becomes an issue. Let’s say you have a bunch of draft documents leading up to the final version. Is it possible that improper version control and/or we’re back to a data quality problem of finding the “final version” needle in the haystack? How does AI prevent this and also not hallucinate an answer that may not be true?Topic 5 - Some have called AI’s ability to absorb and report on data just fancy search. What are your thoughts on this? Where and how does traditional search differ from Agentic AI management?Topic 6 - I also see this as being so much more than indexing and reporting on documents. There is also the concept of automation and workflows that agentic AI can improve upon. What use cases are your customers implementing?Topic 7 - Where do you think the industry will go in the next 2-3 years?FEEDBACK?Email: show at the cloudcast dot netBluesky: @cloudcastpod.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @cloudcastpodInstagram: @cloudcastpodTikTok: @cloudcastpod

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