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  • The Surprising Future of AI with Fathom’s Founder - Richard White
    In this candid and fast-moving episode, Charles sits down with Richard White—founder and CEO of Fathom AI, the top-rated AI note-taking platform on G2 and HubSpot—to unpack the truth behind the AI gold rush. Richard shares why only 5% of internal AI initiatives actually succeed, and what separates innovation from illusion in today’s hype-driven market. Together, they dig deep into the harsh realities of building and buying AI software—from skyrocketing failure rates and short model lifecycles to the “LLM treadmill” that forces companies to constantly rebuild just to keep up. Richard breaks down why most big corporations are struggling to adapt, how startups can outmaneuver them with speed and focus, and why the future of work will favor the few who learn to “think with AI.” The conversation stretches beyond business—exploring the coming social upheaval, the rise of one-person billion-dollar companies, and the ethical crossroads of automation, employment, and human creativity. Both Charles and Richard keep it honest, funny, and forward-looking as they challenge listeners to rethink what it means to lead, learn, and stay relevant in the AI age. This isn’t just another talk about artificial intelligence—it’s a survival guide for entrepreneurs, employees, and visionaries navigating the most disruptive technological shift since fire itself. KEY TAKEAWAYS: -Why the future belongs to those who learn to think with AI, not compete against it -How automation is paving the way for one-person billion-dollar companies -The ethical and human implications of an AI-driven economy—and how to stay grounded amid disruption -The mindset shifts needed to stay relevant, creative, and adaptable in the AI age Head over to provenpodcast.com to download your exclusive companion guide, designed to guide you step-by-step in implementing the strategies revealed in this episode. KEY POINTS: 01:18 – The 5% reality check: Richard opens up about why 95% of internal AI initiatives fail—while Charles unpacks what separates companies that truly innovate from those just chasing the hype. 04:42 – From bootstrapping to breakthrough: Richard shares the journey of building Fathom AI into a top-rated platform—while Charles highlights the timeless lessons in execution, focus, and product-market fit. 08:15 – The LLM treadmill explained: Richard reveals how rapid model updates force companies to constantly rebuild—while Charles reflects on why adaptability is now the ultimate competitive edge. 13:28 – The illusion of enterprise AI: Richard breaks down why corporate AI projects struggle to deliver results—while Charles explores how small, agile teams can move faster and smarter. 20:04 – Thinking with AI, not competing against it: Richard discusses how humans and AI can complement each other—while Charles reframes the idea of “AI replacement” into one of “AI augmentation.” 26:51 – The one-person billion-dollar company: Richard predicts a future where automation and leverage allow individuals to achieve massive scale—while Charles examines what this means for the workforce and leadership. 34:22 – Ethics, disruption, and the human future: Richard warns about the social impact of AI’s rapid acceleration—while Charles challenges listeners to shape technology with purpose, empathy, and accountability. 41:10 – Staying relevant in the age of acceleration: Richard closes by sharing how curiosity and lifelong learning keep innovators ahead—while Charles reminds us that the real advantage isn’t AI itself—it’s how you use it.
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  • The Brutal Truth from a Super Bowl Champion - Setema Gali
    In this powerhouse episode, Charles sits down with Setema Gali—former NFL Super Bowl champion turned elite coach, speaker, and entrepreneur—to unpack the raw truth about what it really takes to win in business, leadership, and life. Setema shares his transformation from professional athlete to purpose-driven mentor, revealing how the same mindset that wins championships also builds unstoppable leaders. He dives deep into the “dragon-slaying” philosophy—facing hard truths, confronting excuses, and building habits that create sustainable success across every area of life. From calling out toxic comfort and fake positivity to breaking down the power of radical accountability, Setema and Charles strip away the fluff and expose the realities of high performance. Together, they explore the price of true transformation—why most people never achieve it, and how those who do build unshakable confidence, discipline, and integrity through consistent, uncomfortable action. This isn’t motivational talk—it’s a masterclass in mental toughness, ownership, and the psychology of winning long after the game ends. KEY TAKEAWAYS: -How Setema Gali transformed his identity from Super Bowl champion to world-class coach by redefining what real winning means -Why true greatness isn’t about talent or trophies—but about integrity, consistency, and inner mastery -The power of “dragon slaying”: confronting your fears, excuses, and self-sabotage to unlock purpose and power -How to lead yourself before leading others—through discipline, accountability, and emotional control Head over to provenpodcast.com to download your exclusive companion guide, designed to guide you step-by-step in implementing the strategies revealed in this episode. KEY POINTS: 01:05 – From the NFL to a new mission: Setema shares his journey from Super Bowl champion to transformational coach—while Charles highlights how reinvention begins when identity no longer depends on titles or trophies. 04:28 – Redefining what it means to win: Setema breaks down the difference between external success and internal fulfillment—while Charles reflects on how chasing validation keeps many high achievers stuck. 08:15 – The power of personal standards: Setema explains why discipline and integrity are the true markers of greatness—while Charles connects this to how leaders create culture through consistency, not charisma. 12:40 – Slaying the internal dragons: Setema reveals his framework for confronting fear, pride, and self-sabotage—while Charles notes how facing your “dragons” becomes the path to freedom and clarity. 16:10 – Leading yourself first: Setema emphasizes that leadership starts with self-mastery—while Charles points out that emotional regulation and humility separate good leaders from exceptional ones. 20:30 – Sustaining success through structure and spirit: Setema discusses how faith, family, and focus form the foundation of lasting achievement—while Charles ties it to the balance between grind and grace. 25:45 – Legacy over lifestyle: Setema closes with a call to pursue impact over image—while Charles reminds listeners that real success is measured not by what you gain, but by who you become.
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  • Bridge the Gap Unspoken Language of Leadership and Success - Jennifer Edwards
    In this thought-provoking episode, Charles sits down with Jennifer Edwards—executive coach, speaker, and author of Bridge the Gap—to explore how curiosity, connection, and psychological flexibility can transform both leadership and life. Jennifer unpacks the power of showing up “clean” in every interaction, revealing why most people fail to connect not because of others—but because they haven’t first connected with themselves. She shares practical tools for breaking out of “sleepwalking” routines, disrupting ego-driven patterns, and creating conversations that open doors instead of closing them. Together, they dive into what it really takes to bridge divides in today’s polarized world: the discipline of asking better questions, the courage to hold space without judgment, and the humility to prioritize impact over looking smart. From tactical daily practices like mindful mornings and walking meditations, to high-level leadership strategies for building trust and community, Jennifer shows how anyone can cultivate connection in a disconnected age. This isn’t just a conversation about communication. It’s a masterclass in building resilient relationships, leading with curiosity, and creating environments where people—and ideas—can truly thrive. KEY TAKEAWAYS: -Why true connection starts with showing up “clean” and being grounded in your own values and presence -How to break out of “sleepwalking” through life by practicing curiosity and disrupting automatic patterns -The difference between reacting from ego vs. responding with humility and awareness -Practical tools—like mindful mornings, journaling, and walking meditations—that reset perspective and energy Head over to provenpodcast.com to download your exclusive companion guide, designed to guide you step-by-step in implementing the strategies revealed in this episode. KEY POINTS: 01:18 – Showing up “clean” in conversations: Jennifer explains how being fully present and grounded changes the way people experience you—while Charles notes how leaders often underestimate this simple shift. 04:42 – Escaping life on autopilot: Jennifer describes the dangers of “sleepwalking” through routines without awareness—while Charles reflects on how intentional disruption sparks growth. 08:10 – Curiosity as a leadership superpower: Jennifer shares how asking better questions opens connection and trust—while Charles highlights how curiosity dissolves barriers in polarized environments. 12:35 – Ego vs. impact in decision-making: Jennifer unpacks why leaders often choose being “right” over being effective—while Charles points out the cost of ego-driven choices. 16:20 – Practical resets for daily clarity: Jennifer introduces mindful mornings, walking meditations, and journaling as tools to re-center—while Charles ties these practices to sustainable high performance. 20:55 – The power of psychological flexibility: Jennifer explains why adaptability and openness are essential for modern leaders—while Charles connects it to resilience in business and relationships. 25:30 – Building bridges that last: Jennifer closes with strategies to foster trust and belonging—while Charles emphasizes that true leadership is measured by the quality of connection you create.
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  • $55 Million with only 5 employees - Kris Dehnert
    In this high-energy episode, Charles sits down with Kris Dehnert—founder of Dehnert Media Group and the driving force behind Dugout Mugs—to unpack how creativity, resilience, and systems thinking can turn simple ideas into multi-million-dollar brands. Kris shares the origin story of Dugout Mugs, where a concept sketched in a kitchen grew into $55M in sales, MLB licensing deals, and a brand loved by fans, athletes, and corporations alike. He breaks down the lessons from his entrepreneurial journey—from early wins in print-on-demand apparel to painful setbacks in restaurants, cannabis, and crypto—and why he believes you fail your way to lasting success. Together, Charles and Kris dive deep into the mechanics of building lean but powerful organizations: how to scale with small teams, empower people through ownership, and leverage AI and systems to multiply output without multiplying overhead. Kris also reveals his personal philosophy—why fun, family, and reflection matter just as much as profit, and why firing yourself from the process is the real key to freedom. This isn’t just a story about baseball mugs. It’s a masterclass in turning setbacks into systems, ordinary products into extraordinary brands, and entrepreneurship into a life you actually want to live. KEY TAKEAWAYS: -How Kris turned a simple idea—baseball bats turned into mugs—into a $55M brand with MLB licensing deals -Why failure in industries like restaurants, cannabis, and crypto taught him the resilience to build lasting businesses -The importance of systems and small, empowered teams to scale without unnecessary overhead -How “firing yourself” from the process creates freedom and long-term sustainability Head over to provenpodcast.com to download your exclusive companion guide, designed to guide you step-by-step in implementing the strategies revealed in this episode. KEY POINTS: 01:22 – From idea to $55M brand: Kris shares how a simple sketch of a baseball bat mug turned into Dugout Mugs with MLB licensing and millions in sales—while Charles highlights the power of turning passion into product. 05:10 – Failing forward through industries: Kris opens up about losses in restaurants, cannabis, and crypto—and why failure became the tuition that prepared him for future wins. 08:48 – Scaling with small teams: Kris explains how lean operations and empowered people drive efficiency—while Charles reflects on why bigger isn’t always better. 12:30 – Firing yourself from the process: Kris discusses the art of stepping back, creating systems, and letting others take ownership—while Charles points out how this unlocks freedom for founders. 16:42 – Building brands with fun and family: Kris reveals why joy, reflection, and relationships matter as much as revenue—while Charles ties it back to building businesses worth living for. 20:25 – Leveraging AI and automation: Kris shares how AI and systems amplify impact without ballooning costs—while Charles notes how smart tech creates real leverage for entrepreneurs. 25:55 – Redefining entrepreneurship: Kris closes with his philosophy: entrepreneurship isn’t just about profit—it’s about lessons, ownership, and creating brands that people love—while Charles emphasizes the legacy of building with purpose. Exclusively for Proven Podcast Listeners: If you’re a true baseball fan, there’s no better way to enjoy the game than with a Dugout Mug—handcrafted from the barrel of a real bat. Right now, you can take 30% off sitewide at https://dugoutmugs.com/discount/PROVEN30 with code Proven30. Whether it’s for your collection, your next tailgate, or the perfect gift for a fellow fan, this is your chance to own a piece of the game at an unbeatable price.
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  • The Art of Billionaire Parenting the Counter Intuitive Method - Naveen Jain
    In this mind-expanding episode, Charles sits down with Naveen Jain—visionary entrepreneur, philanthropist, and founder of Viome—to explore how audacious thinking, curiosity, and counterintuitive parenting can transform not just businesses, but entire lives. Naveen shares his journey from building multibillion-dollar companies to tackling humanity’s biggest challenges, from space exploration to revolutionizing healthcare. He reveals how success isn’t measured by wealth, but by the lives you improve—and why making money is only a byproduct of solving meaningful problems. From raising children who think differently and pursue moonshot ideas, to reimagining healthcare through personalized nutrition and RNA analysis, Naveen unpacks the frameworks that fuel innovation on a massive scale. Together, they dive into the mindset behind asking “why” until you uncover the root cause, the power of turning curiosity into breakthroughs, and the principles that help people build not just companies—but legacies. This isn’t just a conversation about entrepreneurship or health. It’s a blueprint for thinking bigger, challenging assumptions, and daring to create a future where billions live better lives. KEY TAKEAWAYS: -Why success isn’t measured by wealth but by the number of lives you improve -How Naveen Jain raised high-achieving children through counterintuitive parenting and curiosity-driven learning -The principle of asking “why” until you uncover root causes that unlock breakthrough solutions -Why work-life “balance” is a myth—and how to create a seamless continuum between family and business Head over to provenpodcast.com to download your exclusive companion guide, designed to guide you step-by-step in implementing the strategies revealed in this episode. KEY POINTS: 01:22 – Redefining success beyond money: Naveen shares why true success is measured by how many lives you improve, not the wealth you accumulate—while Charles reflects on why this mindset redefines entrepreneurship. 03:49 – Counterintuitive parenting that works: Naveen explains how co-creating stories, fueling curiosity, and showing audacity helped him raise ambitious children—while Charles highlights the lessons parents can apply at home. 05:12 – From dot-com billions to mining the moon: Naveen recalls how he built a $40B company and then chased space exploration—while Charles points out how modeling boldness inspires the next generation. 10:50 – The myth of work-life balance: Naveen reveals why balance is impossible and why life and work must exist as a continuum—while Charles underscores the freedom that comes from integration over separation. 17:33 – Why teaching kids “the value of money” backfires: Naveen argues that making children work menial jobs for money limits them—while Charles unpacks the importance of giving kids platforms to reach higher. 31:24 – The power of asking ‘why’: Naveen shows how relentless curiosity leads to root causes and world-changing solutions—while Charles reflects on how childlike questioning unlocks breakthroughs. 36:33 – Reinventing healthcare with Viome: Naveen details how RNA, AI, and personalized nutrition can prevent disease—while Charles emphasizes the radical shift from generic health advice to truly individualized care. Exclusively for Proven Podcast Listeners: PROVEN10 gets your listeners 10% off of the full price of our Full Body Intelligence Test Viome's Full Body Intelligence™️Test our most comprehensive, at-home, 3-in-1 health test that includes: our gut and oral microbiome tests plus our cellular health test deep analysis of your oral + gut microbiomes your biological age score precision insights into your cellular, cognitive health, immunity, and more recommendations (Superfoods, Enjoy, Minimize, Avoid) for 370+ foods over 60 precision health scores recommendations for custom-formulated supplements, personalized gut biotics and oral hygiene formulas (available through subscription)  *This discount is not combinable with any other offer
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