Screaming in the Cloud

What happens when AI agents become the primary users of the cloud?
In this live episode of Screaming in the Cloud, Corey Quinn sits down with Cloudflare's Dane Knecht and Rita Kozlov at Cloudflare Connect to discuss how AI is changing the way developers build, deploy, and manage applications.
They explore Cloudflare's evolution from its networking roots into a full developer platform, why traditional cloud infrastructure struggles to keep up with AI agents, and how tools like Cloudflare's CF CLI are making development more accessible.
The conversation also tackles the realities of AI-assisted coding, the importance of human judgment when deploying to production, and the growing debate over building versus buying software. Plus, they discuss what happens when bots become a major part of internet traffic and how businesses may need to rethink access, security, and monetization.
With Corey's signature humor and plenty of candid insights, this episode offers a look at how Cloudflare is preparing for an internet increasingly built for both humans and AI agents.

About Dane Kozlov and Rita Kozlov :

Dane Knecht is the Chief Technology Officer at Cloudflare, the leading connectivity cloud company. Knecht is responsible for bringing the company’s most audacious and innovative ideas to life that will be key to Cloudflare’s ongoing evolution and strategy. Over the last 13 years at Cloudflare, he has led the development, launch, and scaling of products like Cloudflare Zero Trust, Cloudflare’s Developer Platform, and most recently, the company’s AI inference and agents platform. Knecht joined Cloudflare when the company had fewer than 30 people. Prior to Cloudflare, Knecht founded an ecommerce SaaS company, which was later acquired, and held product leadership roles at MessageOne and Dell. He graduated from Columbia University and resides in Austin, Texas.
RIta Kozlov is VP of Product for Cloudflare’s developer platform, where she leads the work behind the tools and runtime developers use to build globally distributed applications and AI-powered systems. Her scope spans Cloudflare Workers, Durable Objects, and the execution, security, and coordination layers that help make stateful and agentic software dependable at scale.

Show Highlights:

(00:00) Judgment Over Rules
(00:30) Meet the Guests
(01:14) What Cloudflare Does
(02:13) From CDN to Platform
(03:43) Building for Agents
(06:48) CF CLI and Agent UX
(13:31) AI Principles No Vibes
(22:58) Autonomy Incidents Codex
(31:25) Build vs Buy Personal Tools
(35:56) Dead Internet and Agent Future
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Corey Quinn sits down with Pasquale DeMaio, VP of Amazon Connect Customer , to talk about how Agentic AI is reshaping customer service, and why replacing humans isn’t necessarily the goal. They dig into the evolution of Amazon Connect Customer from a cloud-based contact center into an AI-powered customer experience platform, where agentic AI, real-time customer context, voice technology, and deterministic workflows work together to actually solve problems.

They also explore where humans still matter most, why poorly chosen metrics can create terrible customer experiences, the importance of guardrails as AI becomes more autonomous, and what happens when AI agents start talking to other AI agents. The future of customer service may be increasingly automated, but the real opportunity is making every interaction feel smarter, faster, and more human.

Show Highlights: 
(00:16) Origin Story of Connect
(01:49) From Call Center to Cloud
(04:48) AI First Engagement Vision
(07:04) Agentic Canvas and Workflows
(09:20) When AI vs Humans Matter
(11:20) Guardrails and Fraud Risks
(14:11) Multimodal Live Sync Flights
(16:35) New Voices and Localization
(18:18) Voice Selection and Custom Voices
(20:49) Enterprise Scale and Trust
(23:45) A2A and Open Agent Ecosystem
(25:21) Making Connect Easier to Use
(27:53) Customer Profiles and Personalize
(29:20) Wrap Up and Where to Learn More

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What happens when open source, AI, and decades of database technology collide?

Corey Quinn sits down with German Eichberger, Principal AI Engineering Manager at Microsoft, to dig into DocumentDB, why it’s built on PostgreSQL, and the realities of MongoDB compatibility. They explore how Kubernetes and databases have evolved to better support stateful workloads, why MCP servers could give AI agents safer database access, and how AI may dramatically increase the number of databases organizations need to manage.

Show Highlights: 
(0:00) Databases in Volatile Environments
(00:12) Welcome and Introductions
(01:20) AI Titles and Pay Signals
(02:53) Why DocumentDB Exists
(05:04) Mongo API on Postgres
(07:15) No Forking Postgres
(08:09) Compatibility and Standards
(12:12) Governance and Roadmap
(15:15) Kubernetes and MCP Agents

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AWS VP of Global Networking Matt Rehder joins Corey Quinn to pull back the curtain on the massive network infrastructure behind AWS. They explore resiliency at scale, AWS’s move toward flatter networks, the advantages of building custom hardware, and why AI is making networking exciting again.
Show Highlights: 
(01:08) Meet AWS Networking Lead
(02:01) Why AWS Avoids Global Outages
(05:23) RNG Flat Network Explained
(10:08) Overbuild Capacity And Custom Hardware
(17:37) VPC Virtual Network Origins
(19:50) Why TCP Still Wins
(20:38) SRD Inside AWS
(21:54) Opt In SRD Transport
(25:31) Networks As Utilities 
(27:24) Learning And Growing Engineers
(29:22) Training Talent In House
(31:27) AI Rekindles Networking
(34:26) Where To Learn Networking

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On this episode of Screaming in the Cloud, Corey Quinn sits down with Adam Larsen, Principal Developer at Aurora Educational Technologies, to explore what technology and AI should actually look like in K-12 education. They discuss using tech to empower teachers rather than replace them, the risks of outsourcing critical thinking to AI, student data privacy, and what happens when schools become dependent on tools that may not be affordable forever. Adam also shares how AWS became his go-to platform for solving complex education data problems, and why sometimes the best technology is simply the one that reliably gets the job done.

Show Highlights: 

00:00 Critical Thinking Warning
00:15 Meet the Guest
01:07 From Psych to Edtech
02:07 Teachers and Tool Whiplash
07:29 AI as a Teaching Aid
10:07 Process Over Shortcuts
14:29 Tech Misconceptions in Schools
16:38 Privacy and Picking Vendors
21:50 AI Costs and Ecosystem Bets
26:33 Building on AWS and Wrap Up

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