Growing Interest with Mary Holland Nader

What if the reason you're struggling to save money isn't a lack of discipline, but the fact that your brain thinks future you is a complete stranger?

Dr. Hal Hershfield, UCLA Anderson professor and author of Your Future Self, joins Mary Holland to explain the surprising psychology behind our money decisions. His research reveals that when we think about ourselves years from now, our brains can respond as if we're thinking about someone else. Which explains why buying something today feels so much better than saving for a future we can't even picture.

But how are we supposed to plan for the future when our careers, relationships, the economy, and even AI make tomorrow feel so unpredictable? And is saving always the right answer, or could spending money on experiences today actually be a gift to our future selves?

Hal and Mary get into:

Why your brain treats future you like a stranger (and what that means for your bank account)

Why saving money feels especially difficult in your 20s and 30s

How to stop feeling guilty about spending money today

Three science-backed ways to make saving easier without relying on willpower

Plus, Hal shares a simple exercise to help you get to know future you a little better, starting today.

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Haley Sacks, aka Mrs. Dow Jones, has built a career making complicated financial concepts make sense to millions of people. But let's be honest: how many of us actually understand what the Fed does, how the stock market works, or why everyone keeps talking about interest rates?Haley joins Mary Holland to break down the money terms everyone hears but few people really understand. From the S&P 500 and the Federal Reserve to interest rates and inflation, Haley explains what these things actually mean, why they matter, and how they impact your everyday financial decisions.She also gets candid about her own relationship with money, the financial mistakes she's made (and what she's learned from them), and the simple habits that can help you turn financial knowledge into actual wealth.Haley and Mary Holland get into:- What the Fed actually does and why its decisions affect your wallet- The difference between the S&P 500, Nasdaq and Dow Jones- How interest rates impact everything from your savings to your mortgage- The investing mistakes and money lessons they've learned firsthandWhether you're new to investing or just tired of pretending you understand the financial news, consider this your crash course in the money stuff everyone should know.Because understanding money is the first step to making more of it.

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This week, we're getting a little witchy with our money.Mary Holland is joined by Dr. Ellen Vora, a Yale- and Columbia-trained psychiatrist and author of Season of the Witch, who's making a fascinating case for something women have been told to ignore for centuries: their intuition.But we're not just talking crystals and manifestation. We're talking biology, neuroscience, hormones, and what actually happens in your body when something just feels off.Can your gut help you make better financial decisions? Is there science behind manifesting money? Why are women called emotional when they trust their instincts? And is the hustle mentality actually working against us?Ellen is breaking down the difference between false anxiety and true anxiety, the science behind those mysterious gut feelings, and how to build a more intuitive relationship with money.

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You probably know Chantel Jeffries as a DJ, creator, and fixture in pop culture. What you may not know is that she's also been quietly building a track record as an investor.

Chantel wrote an early check into Poppi before its roughly $2 billion acquisition by PepsiCo. She's an early investor in Oura, backed Lolli, launched her own fund, Vizn Ventures, and was talking about Bitcoin back in 2017.

So how did she learn to spot opportunities early—and trust herself enough to put real money behind them?

Chantel joins Mary Holland to talk about what she looks for before backing a company, the difference between following a trend and recognizing a real opportunity, and how she learned to trust her own judgment even when other people underestimated her.

They also get into managing money with an unpredictable income, the lessons Chantel has learned from investing, and how to start thinking differently about the brands you already know and love.

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As the co-founder and CEO of Good American, founding partner of SKIMS, and one of the most successful self-made women in business, Emma Grede has built an empire. But she didn't come from money, didn't finish college, and wasn't always comfortable with numbers.

In this episode of Growing Interest, Mary Holland Nader sits down with Emma to explore the money mindset shifts behind her success—and what the rest of us can learn from them.

They get into the psychology of money, from emotional spending and overcoming a fear of numbers to negotiating for more, knowing your worth, and understanding when to prioritize ownership over a paycheck. Emma also opens up about navigating money in friendships, relationships, and business, and why women need to stop apologizing for wanting more.

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DISCLOSURE: This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute investment, financial, legal, or tax advice. All investing involves risk, including loss of principal. Guests and the host may own securities discussed on this show, and nothing said here is a recommendation to buy or sell any security. Always do your own research and consult a licensed financial advisor before making financial decisions. This podcast is not produced, reviewed, or endorsed by Mary & Pip Investments LLC, a registered investment advisor, nor its affiliates. Nothing said here reflects the views, advice, or services of that firm.
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