In this enlightening episode, Rachel engages in a deep conversation with Rebecca Lemov, a historian of science at Harvard University, whose research focuses on brainwashing, mind control, and hyper persuasion. As they explore the malleability of truth and identity, Rebecca shares her journey from anthropology to the history of science, where her fascination with brainwashing began during her dissertation at UC Berkeley. Together, they discuss the complexities of self-concept, especially for those who have experienced high-control environments, and how individuals often struggle to reclaim their identities after manipulation.Throughout their discussion, Rachel and Rebecca delve into the psychological impact of coercive relationships and the disorienting effects of being told what to believe. They touch on personal anecdotes and broader societal issues, including the crisis of trust in contemporary discourse and the challenges of discerning truth in a world filled with misinformation. Rebecca emphasizes the importance of recognizing one's own experiences as a source of truth, rather than relying solely on external narratives.As they navigate the intricacies of memory and perception, the conversation highlights the need for self-awareness and critical thinking in understanding one's place within manipulative systems. This episode serves as a powerful reminder of the resilience required to reclaim autonomy and the significance of community and support in the journey towards healing.Purchase THE INSTABILITY OF TRUTH: Brainwashing, Mind Control and Hyper-Persuasion here:https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324075264Find out more about Rebecca and her work here:https://rebeccalemov.com/Find links to Rebecca's other books & articles here:https://histsci.fas.harvard.edu/people/rebecca-lemovListen to the Bob Dylan song Rebecca referenced, "A Hard Rain Is Gonna Fall" here:https://youtu.be/T5al0HmR4to?si=w4M4ZX1yy9T4nzoOConnect with us on social media:https://linktr.ee/indoctrinationWatch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jSYour support is crucial! Join us on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more:https://www.patreon.com/indoctrinationIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:https://thepodcastconsultant.com/about
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BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW: Apocalyptic Thinking pt. 1
This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrinationIn this thought-provoking bonus episode, Rachel dives into the complex world of apocalyptic thinking, exploring its historical roots and psychological implications. This first part of a two-part series examines how apocalyptic beliefs have persisted through time, often gaining traction during periods of societal unrest and uncertainty. Rachel discusses the mindset that emphasizes imminent destruction and personal salvation, drawing connections to the behaviors and attitudes seen in high-control groups.Throughout the episode, Rachel highlights the dangerous detachment from present responsibilities that apocalyptic thinking can foster. She shares insights on how individuals may withdraw from forming meaningful connections and planning for the future when consumed by the belief that the world is ending. The discussion touches on the psychological mechanisms that enable violent ideologies within militant apocalyptic groups, where individuals rationalize extreme actions as necessary for a greater good.Rachel also delves into the modern manifestations of apocalyptic thought, linking it to contemporary concerns such as climate change, nuclear threats, and technological advancements. By examining these themes, she sheds light on how apocalyptic narratives provide structure and meaning, especially during crises, and how they can lead to collective movements driven by a shared vision of doom.Connect with us on social media:https://linktr.ee/indoctrinationWatch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jSSupport IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrinationDownload Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.htmlIndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:https://thepodcastconsultant.com/about
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Behind the Curtain of Landmark with Michael Yoder
In this thought-provoking episode, Rachel engages in a captivating conversation with Michael Yoder, a writer and composer from Victoria, British Columbia. Michael shares his personal journey through the Landmark Forum, a self-help program that he initially found appealing but soon discovered to be rife with manipulative tactics and coercive practices. As he recounts his experiences, Michael reveals the unsettling similarities he observed between Landmark and other high-control groups, including Scientology and Jehovah's Witnesses.Throughout their discussion, Michael reflects on the psychological pressures that participants face, from the initial allure of transformation to the harsh realities of life within the program. He candidly describes the confessional nature of the Forum, where individuals are pushed to declare their intentions and confront their perceived shortcomings in front of others, often leading to feelings of shame and betrayal. Rachel and Michael delve into the language used in these groups, unpacking terms like "transformation" and "getting complete," which often serve to obscure the true nature of the experience and keep participants engaged.As they explore the aftermath of Michael's departure from Landmark, he emphasizes the importance of critical thinking and self-awareness in recognizing the manipulative dynamics at play in high-control environments. This episode serves as a powerful reminder of the resilience required to reclaim one's autonomy and the value of sharing personal stories to foster understanding and healing.Check out Michael's book "Scattering Ashes"-US:https://www.amazon.com/Scattering-Ashes-Michael-Yoder/dp/0992029961CA:https://www.amazon.ca/Scattering-Ashes-Michael-Yoder/ E-book:https://www.kobo.com/ca/en/ebook/the-scattering-of-ashes-1Connect with us on social media:https://linktr.ee/indoctrinationWatch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jSYour support is crucial! Join us on Patreon at:https://www.patreon.com/indoctrinationIndoctrination is edited by The Podcast Consultant:https://thepodcastconsultant.com/about
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Cult Hopping Chronicles pt. 2: Unraveling The Threads Of Control with Cara Cordoni
In this powerful conclusion to Rachel's conversation with Cara Cordoni, the complexities of navigating high-control environments are brought to light. Cara, a seasoned leadership coach and survivor of multiple cult experiences, shares her harrowing journey through the International School of Temple Arts (ISTA) and the manipulative tactics employed within such groups. Picking up from the previous episode, Cara details her experiences with coercive practices that blur the lines of consent and personal agency.Throughout their discussion, Rachel and Cara unpack the psychological impact of being pushed into uncomfortable situations under the guise of personal growth. Cara reflects on her initial excitement about ISTA's promises of sexual and spiritual liberation, only to find herself entangled in a web of emotional manipulation and boundary violations. They delve into the dangerous dynamics of groupthink, the pressure to conform, and the insidious normalization of harmful practices that can lead to profound emotional distress.As they explore the aftermath of these experiences, Cara emphasizes the importance of community support and the need for accountability within such organizations. She shares her work with 3SC, which aims to collect harm reports and advocate for safer practices in spiritual spaces. This episode serves as a crucial reminder of the resilience required to reclaim one's voice and agency after experiencing manipulation and coercion.For anyone seeking to understand the nuances of consent, personal agency, and the potential dangers of high-control groups, this episode offers invaluable insights and a call to action for greater awareness and advocacy.Listen To Cara's First Episode Here:https://www.podpage.com/indoctrination/cult-hopping-chronicles-pt-1-a-journey-through-control-and-liberation-with-cara-cardoni/Read the New Yorker Magazine Article on ISTA here:https://www.thecut.com/article/the-neo-tantric-sex-group-that-promised-to-change.htmlYou can learn more about Cara's advocacy work at the 3SC community here:http://3sc.community/Learn more about Cara's leadership coaching and support groups at:https://www.caracordonicoaching.com/Connect with us on social media:https://linktr.ee/indoctrinationWatch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jSYour support is crucial! Join us on Patreon at:https://www.patreon.com/indoctrinationIndoctrination is edited by The Podcast Consultant:https://thepodcastconsultant.com/about
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BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW-The Dynamics of Consent: Freedom vs. Coercion pt. 2
This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrinationIn this enlightening continuation of our Patreon exclusive bonus episode, Rachel delves deeper into the intricate and often misrepresented topic of consent, particularly within high-control groups and cults. Picking up from the first part, Rachel emphasizes the critical distinction between genuine consent and the coercive situations that often arise in these environments. She explores how individuals are manipulated into giving consent they never truly agreed to, discussing the psychological impacts of such violations, including emotional numbing, dissociation, and the erosion of personal boundaries.Throughout the episode, Rachel outlines the various forms of exploitation that occur within cults, from forced labor and financial extortion to sexual exploitation and medical neglect. She highlights how these manipulative tactics can lead to a profound loss of autonomy and a sense of helplessness among members. As she unpacks the complexities of reclaiming one's consent, Rachel provides actionable insights for listeners on how to recognize manipulation, trust their instincts, and rebuild their personal agency after leaving such environments.With a focus on the importance of ongoing consent, Rachel encourages listeners to redefine their understanding of consent in a way that empowers them to assert their boundaries, even in the face of social pressure. This episode serves as a vital resource for anyone looking to navigate the challenges of reclaiming their autonomy and understanding the nuances of consent in their lives.Connect with us on social media:https://linktr.ee/indoctrinationSubscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS
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