Live Well Be Well with Sarah Ann Macklin | Health, Lifestyle, Nutrition

This week's Live Well Be Well Moment with Patric Gagne, author and self-identified sociopath.
We delve into Patric's childhood, when she first realised she was different from everyone around her, what school and friendships looked like, and how she learned to mask — and why understanding this changes everything about how we think about sociopathy in young people.
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This week's Live Well Be Well Moment with Patric Gagne, author and self-identified sociopath.
We delve into one of the most fascinating questions of the episode — what does love actually look like for a sociopath? What does Patric feel for her husband, how do relationships work differently for her, and what happened when she found herself in an unhealthy dynamic she kept returning to?
My book 'Healthy Shouldn't Be This Hard': https://www.amazon.co.uk/Healthy-Shouldnt-Be-This-Hard-ebook/dp/B0G1DHNRV5
This episode is sponsored by:
NOWATCH: The compassionate health tracker Connecting body and mind with unique stress recovery insights so you can live fully today. 👉 15% off with code LWBW15 at https://nowatch.com/
PULSETTO: Vagus nerve stimulation for stress, sleep and calm
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More from me: The Great British Veg Out How to support your gut by eating more, not less https://sarahmacklin.substack.com/p/t…
Reset Your Health If your body feels off after stress, travel, or burnout, this is where to start! https://sarahmacklin.substack.com/s/r...
Free 5-recipe PDF for busy weeks https://open.substack.com/pub/sarahma...
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This week I'm joined by David Kessler, grief expert, author and one of the most important voices in the world on loss, healing and what it means to find meaning after the people we love are gone.
We explore grief in all its forms, why we get it so wrong, and what it actually looks like to move through loss rather than around it.
David Kessler co-authored On Grief and Grieving with Elisabeth Kübler-Ross and is the author of six books on grief and loss, including Finding Meaning, which adds a sixth stage to the five stages of grief. He is the founder of grief.com, one of the largest grief resources in the world, and has worked with thousands of people through loss — including after the death of his own son.
He is widely regarded as the world's foremost expert on grief and has spent his career changing the way we understand and talk about one of the most universal human experiences.
What we explore together:
Why the five stages of grief were never meant to be linear — and what that means for how we heal
What grief actually is, and why it extends far beyond death
Why we are so bad at sitting with other people’s pain — and what to do instead
The sixth stage of grief: finding meaning — what it is, and what it isn’t
Why your loved one’s physical death is permanent, but your loss of hope is temporary
What David learned about grief from losing his own son
Why love is the one thing that never dies — and how that changes everything

Love, Sarah Ann
💛My book 'Healthy Shouldn't Be This Hard': https://www.amazon.co.uk/Healthy-Shouldnt-Be-This-Hard-ebook/dp/B0G1DHNRV5
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction
03:07 Why the five stages of grief were never meant to be linear
05:52 What grief actually is — and why it goes beyond death
12:09 The chapter on anger and why it matters
14:53 Why we’re so bad at sitting with other people’s pain
18:10 There is no perfect way to grieve
20:54 Grief is universal — so why do we forget that?
23:58 When logic tries to fix what only feeling can heal
27:09 Pain and grief as transformation
29:54 The profound healing moment most people miss
32:55 Quieting the mind to stay present with loss
35:56 The goal of grief work: remembering with more love than pain
39:04 Allowing life to happen alongside grief
42:07 David’s personal loss and what it taught him
45:06 Being invested in life while knowing it is temporary
48:12 We are human beings — and we are going to get it wrong
53:52 Waking up after loss and what that first moment feels like
57:07 Finding community and connection through grief
65:56 Your loss of hope is temporary
69:12 Soulmates and what happens after loss
71:49 What is the worst kind of grief?
80:48 Love is what connects and heals us
83:59 The luxury of feelings in this generation
87:09 Final thoughts on living well and being well

This week's Live Well Be Well Moment with Dr Michael, board-certified dermatologist and skin cancer specialist.
We delve into when you should be getting skin checks, what to look for yourself, how quickly skin cancer can progress and what Sarah discovered when she went for her own screening — and why it might just save your life.
My book 'Healthy Shouldn't Be This Hard': https://www.amazon.co.uk/Healthy-Shouldnt-Be-This-Hard-ebook/dp/B0G1DHNRV5
This episode is sponsored by:
NOWATCH: The compassionate health tracker Connecting body and mind with unique stress recovery insights so you can live fully today. 👉 15% off with code LWBW15 at https://nowatch.com/
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More from me: The Great British Veg Out How to support your gut by eating more, not less https://sarahmacklin.substack.com/p/t…
Reset Your Health If your body feels off after stress, travel, or burnout, this is where to start! https://sarahmacklin.substack.com/s/r...
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This week's Live Well Be Well Moment with Dr Michael, board-certified dermatologist and skin cancer specialist.
We delve into red light therapy, photobiomodulation, cosmetic lasers and what the science actually says about which treatments are worth your time and money — and which ones aren't.
My book 'Healthy Shouldn't Be This Hard': https://www.amazon.co.uk/Healthy-Shouldnt-Be-This-Hard-ebook/dp/B0G1DHNRV5
This episode is sponsored by:
NOWATCH: The compassionate health tracker Connecting body and mind with unique stress recovery insights so you can live fully today. 👉 15% off with code LWBW15 at https://nowatch.com/
PULSETTO: Vagus nerve stimulation for stress, sleep and calm
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More from me: The Great British Veg Out How to support your gut by eating more, not less https://sarahmacklin.substack.com/p/t…
Reset Your Health If your body feels off after stress, travel, or burnout, this is where to start! https://sarahmacklin.substack.com/s/r...
Free 5-recipe PDF for busy weeks https://open.substack.com/pub/sarahma...
Join thousands reading The Compassionate Cure → https://sarahmacklin.substack.com/
Let's be friends! 📷 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sarahannmacklin 📹 Subscribe https://youtube.com/@livewellbewellsarah?si=UbuuWvMjAcTkELPN 📱 TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@livewellbewellpodcast?_r=1&_t=ZN-96iOW29jTRm