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Make Visible: Chronic Illness Explored

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    #34 Fibromyalgia and chronic pain management with Ryan Bourdo, Physical Therapist

    15/05/2026 | 55 mins.
    STRATEGIES: Physical rehabilitation for chronic pain conditions.
    If you live with fibromyalgia, ME/CFS, EDS or chronic pain, you've likely heard that exercise may help. You've also probably learned, the hard way, that the wrong kind of effort costs you for days afterwards. The truth is that thoughtfully-designed physical therapy strategies can help with quality of life, if the approach is individualised and built around a person's baseline.

    In this episode physical therapist **Ryan Bourdo** (Oregon Health and Science University, Portland), experienced in caring for people with these conditions, explains how his approach of individualised, patient-led therapy can improve patients' day-to-day lives.

    Ryan specialises in fibromyalgia, Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (EDS), and their co-morbidities, and approaches each patient with time, empathy, and the willingness to listen. He explains how understanding his patient’s life, needs and pain points is the most instrumental part of him being able to help.

    We also hear from occupational therapist Amy Mooney, who brings over two decades of experience working with fibromyalgia, ME/CFS, Long Covid, EDS, MCAS, and Post-Exertional Malaise (PEM). Amy runs her own telehealth programme OT4ME and collaborates with the Bateman Horne Center to train healthcare professionals and support patients.

    Amy Mooney is an occupational therapist with over two decades experience providing care for individuals with conditions such as Fibromyalgia, ME/CFS, Long Covid, EDS, MCAS, with a particular focus on Post-Exertional Malaise (PEM). Amy runs her own telehealth programme OT4ME and collaborates extensively with the Bateman Horne Center to educate healthcare professionals and support patients.

    If you live with fibromyalgia or chronic pain, and want to how understand physical or occupational therapy might help, this episode is for you. In our conversation we explore:

    The role that simple movement can play in managing chronic pain

    Why physical therapy should not become an added burden for people already in pain.

    The importance of listening to patients with energy-limiting conditions

    How small, simple strategies can help patients see their condition as manageable

    Creating a low-stress environment

    What rest actually looks like — and why it's not the same as doing nothing

    How simplification can unlock the "golden nuggets" of everyday life

    Through both of these conversations, the same idea shines through - treat patients as individuals.

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    #33 Hypermobile Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (hEDS) undiagnosed for 23 years with Dr Lucy Foulkes

    01/05/2026 | 1h 13 mins.
    STORIES: Undiagnosed Hypermobile Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (hEDS) | Chronic Pain, Diagnosis & Living with Complex Chronic Illness
    For 23 years, Dr Lucy Foulkes has lived with chronic pain, migraines, endometriosis, joint hypermobility, and a cycle of unexplained symptoms. She was seen by neurologists, rheumatologists, urologists, gynaecologists, physiotherapists, and nutritionists. Nobody connected the dots. Then last year, a stranger's Instagram message changed everything, and finally led her to a diagnosis of hypermobile Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (hEDS).

    In this episode of Make Visible, Dr Foulkes brings a uniquely powerful dual perspective: an Oxford psychologist who researches diagnosis, self-diagnosis, and mental health language, and a patient who spent over two decades undiagnosed.

    If you are living with unexplained chronic pain, fatigue, migraines, MCAS, POTS, endometriosis, hypermobility, or you have ever been told that your symptoms don't add up, this episode is for you.

    In this episode we cover:

    The siloed medical system that treats symptoms in isolation, and why it consistently fails complex chronic illness patients

    Dr Foulkes' 23-year diagnostic journey through hEDS, chronic migraine, endometriosis, and more

    The Beighton Scale and how hEDS and Hypermobility Spectrum Disorder (HSD) are assessed, and the potential change in diagnostic criteria in late 2026

    The mental load of living with chronic illness: rationing medication, energy, and life itself

    Self-diagnosis in chronic illness and mental health: danger or necessity?

    Why diagnosis can feel like relief, not a sentence

    Practical strategies for living well within the limits of chronic illness

    Identity versus illness: how not to let your condition become who you are

    About Lucy Foulkes

    Lucy Foulkes is a Research Fellow in Psychology at the University of Oxford, specialising in adolescent mental health and social development. She is the author of Coming of Age: How Adolescence Shapes Us (2024) and What Mental Illness Really Is… And What It Isn't (2021). Her essay ‘Welcome To My Body’ is available to read here.

     

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    #32 Hidden Virus, Immune Exhaustion & the Brain: Long Covid, ME/CFS and post-viral illness with Dr Avindra Nath (NIH)

    24/04/2026 | 57 mins.
    SCIENCE: Long Covid | ME/CFS | Neuroinflammation | Clinical Trials

    What happens to the brain when a virus takes hold and why do some people never fully recover?

    Dr Avindra Nath has spent his career at the intersection of neurology and infectious disease, from the early AIDS pandemic through Zika and Ebola to today's work on Long COVID and ME/CFS. As Clinical Director of the NIH's National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS), he is leading some of the most important research into post-viral illness happening anywhere in the world.

    In this episode, Dr. Nath explains the neuroscience of viral infection in accessible terms: how viruses enter and adapt inside the brain, how a single infected cell can trigger widespread neurological dysfunction, and why viral remnants (fragments of protein and RNA that linger long after the acute infection) may be enough on their own to cause ongoing damage.

    He shares the key findings from the NIH's landmark 2024 deep-phenotyping study of post-infectious ME/CFS patients, including:

    Persistent immune activation and immune exhaustion, even years after infection

    Striking sex differences in immune response: B cell activation dominant in men, T cell activation in women. with major implications for treatment

    Why cohort selection and subtyping matter when designing therapies

    Why a one-size-fits-all treatment approach will not work

    Dr. Nath also addresses the controversy around the term "altered effort preference" used in the 2024 paper (a phrase that drew significant criticism from the patient community) and the NIH symposium convened in response.

    Looking ahead, he outlines three active NIH trials that could reshape Long Covid treatment:

    Viral Reservoir Study: multi-site biopsies to locate viral remnants throughout the body

    IVIG Study: placebo-controlled crossover trial using immunotherapy

    Checkpoint Inhibitor Study: using pembrolizumab to reverse immune exhaustion; FDA-approved, with enrolment opening the week of 20th April 2026

    Emily Kate and Gez break down the science, highlight the findings most relevant to the Long Covid and ME/CFS communities, and discuss some of the criticisms of the NIH team's methodology.

    Dr Avindra Nath is Clinical Director of the NIH NINDS, Director of the Translational Neuroscience Center, and Chief of the Section of Infections of the Nervous System.

    If this episode helped you: subscribe, leave a review, and share with someone navigating Long COVID or ME/CFS.

    Share your story or send your feedback here.

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    #31 POTS: Symptoms, understanding, and management with Dr Tae Chung

    03/04/2026 | 57 mins.
    STRATEGIES: Understanding Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome (POTS) - Practical Strategies for Diagnosis and Treatment

    “80- 90% of POTS patients are disabled to a certain extent - people who just cannot work or go to school or are limited in their daily function.”

    — Dr Tae Chung, POTS Program Director, Johns Hopkins University

    Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome (POTS) is a complex condition linked to dysfunction of the autonomic nervous system. Primarily characterised by an abnormal increase in heart rate when moving from lying down to standing (orthostatic tachycardia), POTS patients experience a wide variety of debilitating symptoms including:

    Brain fog and cognitive dysfunction

    Dizziness and lightheadedness

    Nausea and digestive issues

    Fatigue

    Temperature regulation problems

    In this week’s episode Dr Tae Chung explains the diagnostic criteria for POTS, including orthostatic tachycardia, and the challenges of diagnosing and treating POTS, especially when alongside other co-morbid conditions. We discuss the standard treatments for POTS of this often misdiagnosed or mistreated condition, and why personalised care is essential for effective POTS management.

    Dr Chung also shares insights from his ongoing research into Long COVID-related POTS, including investigating biomarkers to better understand the condition; exploring drug therapies and non-pharmacological treatment; his work on the RECOVER clinical trial; and research into safe exercise approaches for POTS patients (with Prof. Todd Davenport).

    And Emily Kate Stephens and Gez Medinger discuss practical, real-world strategies for those suffering from POTS symptoms:

    How to seek a POTS diagnosis

    The 10 minute active standard test / NASA lean test

    Lifestyle interventions: hydration, salt intake, and diet

    The challenge of exercise of exercise and pacing

    Trusted resources and support for POTS patients

    Dr Tae Chung is the Director of the POTS Program and Assistant Professor in Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation at Johns Hopkins University.  A board certified neuromuscular specialist and physiatrist, his primary areas of patient care and research are autonomic nervous system dysfunction.

    Resources:

    POTS UK - Managing POTS 

    Top Tips for Obtaining a Diagnosis 

    Physical activity and exercise in ME/CFS – NICE guidelines 2021 

    Standing up to POTS - Daily Management Strategies

    POTS Foundation Australia - Living with POTS 

     

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    #30 Navigating medical appointments with Dr Alba Azola

    20/03/2026 | 52 mins.
    STRATEGIES: How do you navigate medical appointments when you’re living with a complex chronic illness?
    Too often, patients with energy-limiting conditions are told there’s “nothing to be done.” Many are dismissed as anxious, not believed, and left without the care they need, across healthcare systems worldwide.

    In this episode, we push back against that narrative.

    We’re joined by Dr. Alba Azola, rehabilitation physician and lead of the ME/CFS and related disorders program at Johns Hopkins University. Through her work, she has helped many patients with complex chronic illnesses regain function and reduce symptoms, challenging the belief that these conditions are untreatable.

    Dr. Azola shares a hopeful, practical approach: one that focuses on managing symptoms, addressing co-morbidities, and using targeted strategies to reduce pain and improve daily function.

    She also discusses the importance of spreading knowledge from experienced, compassionate clinicians, and how this can begin to shift the medical landscape. As part of a multidisciplinary team, she contributed to the PM&R Compendium Statement, a clinical guide supporting physicians in treating Long Covid and related conditions, including POTS, MCAS, dysautonomia, cognitive dysfunction, and orthostatic intolerance.

    Hosts Gez Medinger and Emily Kate Stephens break down key insights from the PM&R Compendium Statement, alongside guidance from the Bateman Horne Clinical Care Guide and other leading resources, offering a more structured approach to care.

    In this conversation, they explore:

    How to access the medical care you need

    How to prepare effectively for appointments

    The value of keeping a symptom diary

    Communicating with your GP or primary care physician

    Using pacing strategies and data tools (like Visible)

    Building confidence in self-advocacy

    Understanding the treatment you deserve

    Resources & References:

    PM&R Compendium Statement

    Bateman Horne Clinical Care Guide

    PNAS Patient Survey

    DHS ME/CFS Delivery Plan

    NICE Clinical Knowledge Summary ME/CFS

    NICE Rapid Guideline for Managing Long Covid

    Royal College of GPs Long Covid Advice and Resources for Long Covid

     

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About Make Visible: Chronic Illness Explored
Shining a light on invisible illness.Emily Kate Stephens, journalist and Long Covid sufferer, discusses the latest research and insights with the world’s leading experts, scientists and healthcare professionals.  Including ME/CFS, Long Covid, Ehlers Danlos (EDS), Fibromyalgia, POTS, Mast Cell Activation Syndrome (MCAS), Chronic Lyme, Infection Associated Chronic Conditions (IACCs) and more, we dive into the science of energy-limiting, chronic illness, whilst providing patients, caregivers and medical professionals with practical tools to diagnose, understand and manage their conditions. From pacing to supplements, repurposed drugs to biomarkers, therapies to advocacy groups, we share the work that is being done for and by the community, helping patients navigate their symptoms, emotions and lives. Join us every two weeks.To find out more about the work that Visible is doing, using wearable technology to measure and manage complex chronic illness, visit our website at: Make Visible @visible_health @visible.health
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