Being Human with Steve Cuss

Host Steve Cus welcomes Lee C. Camp—professor, podcaster, and author—for a rich conversation about anxiety, systems theory, and human flourishing. Lee shares his personal journey with anxiety and depression, and how discovering differentiation through therapy transformed his relationships and emotional health. They explore legalism within the Churches of Christ tradition and its lasting emotional impact. The discussion also touches on societal reactivity, the purpose behind Lee's podcast No Small Endeavor, and the importance of creating hospitable spaces for honest dialogue. Lee closes with reflections on gliding, music, and simple morning rituals as grounding practices.

Episode Resources:

Malcolm Gladwell’s The Alabama Murders: Part 1: The True Church

Steve Cuss’ Managing Leadership Anxiety

David Schnarch’s Passionate Marriage

David McCullough’s The Wright Brothers

Books by Parker J. Palmer

Books by Thomas Merton

Murray Bowen’s family systems theory

More about Differentiation of self

Scripture Referenced:

Mark 12:30–31 (ESV)

More From Lee C. Camp:

Lee C. Camp’s Scandalous Witness: A Little Political Manifesto for Christians

Books by Lee C. Camp

Listen to No Small Endeavor and The Subtext

Sign up for Lee C. Camp’s newsletter

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Host Steve and Clarissa Moll explore how invisible dynamics like reactivity and anxiety affect leadership, relationships, and our connection with God. Steve shares six tools for diffusing reactivity—vulnerability, laughter, curiosity, clarity, love, and redirecting anxiety—while emphasizing playfulness as an underutilized organizational resource. They discuss how collective laughter and singing reset the nervous system, and how God's playful nature, reflected in creation, makes these habits spiritually meaningful.

Episode Resources:


More about Trisha Taylor


More about The Chosen


More about Ladysmith Black Mambazo 

More From Clarissa Moll:


Explore Clarissa Moll’s website


Read Clarissa Moll’s substack

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Host Steve Cuss sits down with Matt Wenger for a candid conversation about addiction, intimacy, and healing. Together, they unpack the complexities of sexual addiction, the ripple effects it has on loved ones, and why recovery is best understood as a "team sport." Matt highlights the power of vulnerability, group support, and true intimacy as antidotes to the false connections addiction promises. Steve and Matt also shine a light on betrayal trauma experienced by partners, offering hope, empathy, and pathways toward healing for everyone impacted.

Episode Resources:


Explore Matt’s work at the Begin Again Institute


Understanding the Signs and Causes of Betrayal Trauma


Romans (from the New Testament) - It is mentioned in the context of discussing sin as an infection or condition rather than solely a moral issue.


Read The Great Commandment (in Luke, Matthew, and Mark’s gospels)


Read Romans 8:38-39 


Read Romans 7 (Paul discuss sin struggles)


More about Matt Wenger

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In this episode of Being Human with Steve Cuss, Steve welcomes fellow Australian Matt Smallbone, a Nashville pastor and author of The Prayer Experiment. Matt shares how he overcame personal struggles with prayer—including a period of spiritual distance following a miscarriage—by committing to pray the Lord's Prayer multiple times daily. He explains it as a framework for reorienting from reactivity to connection with God. The conversation also explores family-of-origin dynamics, including the assets and liabilities of growing up in a pastor's household.

Episode Resources:


Matt Smallbone’s The Prayer Experiment: How Praying Like Jesus Realigns Everything - Our Thoughts, Our Hearts, and Our Posture Toward God and the World


Dallas Willard's Teaching on Prayer


Doctor Daniel Amen's Social Media Insights


Church of the City: Downtown Nashville


The Lord’s Prayer: Matthew 6:9–13 (ESV)


Jon Tyson’s sermon: Teach Us To Pray: Pray What You’ve Got

More From Matt Smallbone:


Matt Smallbone’s website


Church of the City Downtown teaching podcast

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In this episode of Being Human, host Steve Cuss welcomes Australian family systems expert and author Jenny Brown to discuss her new book, The Parenting Paradox. Steve and Jenny weave together family systems theory, faith, and practical parenting wisdom. They explore how parents can reduce anxiety by focusing on their own growth rather than trying to fix their children. Key topics include managing reactivity, setting healthy boundaries, navigating social media challenges, and parenting adult children and grandchildren. Jenny emphasizes that parental success shouldn't be measured by a child's behavior, but by a parent's own principles and self-awareness. 

Episode Resources:


Jenny Brown’s The Parenting Paradox: Loving Our Children by Giving Them Space to Grow


Bowen Family Systems Theory’s Eight Concepts


Understanding Differentiation of Self


Tim Keller’s Counterfeit Gods


Australia bans social media for children under 16


Read Matthew 7:3–5 ESV

More From Jenny Brown:


Jenny Brown’s Website


Family Systems Institute


Jenny Brown’s Growing Yourself Up: How to bring your best to all of life's relationships


Parent Hope Project


Parent Hope Podcast

Jenny Brown’s Author Page
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